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heavenly.talker
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Posted: 12 April 2015 at 7:55pm |
Best wishes Amie I hope this is your month and those lovely little eggies are just wiggling with anticipation to meet their other halves. I will be thinking of you!
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TTC our 3rd child 5+ yrs. Self-funding. Over 55 medicated cycles. 3 m/c's iuis, ivf with ICSI fresh BFN, 1 FET BFN. PCOS horrible. Endo and adhesions from c-sects resected. DH few wrigglers. FAITH!
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Mushroom
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Posted: 12 April 2015 at 8:43pm |
Good luck for tomorrow Amie! And yes, Sunday blood tests are the worst - having to drive ages to the only clinic and wait forever....
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Me: 35, PCOS, endo, DH: 34, severe MFI 6+ yrs TTC#2 M/C 2012, clomid 2013, IVM 2014, IVF 2015, M/C 2015 2016 FET#1- BFP - MMC - Emergency D&C FET#2 - BFN Jul 16 - stage 3 endo removed. Oct 16 BFP
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Posted: 13 April 2015 at 11:20am |
Thanks for the welcome back ladies BC I've never had Intralipid be discussed with me before. What is it? Is that the plan for you with your next IVF? FA's suggestion to me last year was to do "scratching" with my next IVF. I've decided not to get the pessaries through my GP and the chemist. I worked out it would only be 12 days worth of them for $240! I may aswell go back to the specialists! I had some cramping yesterday and no AF yet, and without getting too hopeful AF shouldn't even be due for another 5-6 days. I think I'll wait till Wed or Thurs to test though. HT things are really moving along for you! I hope your optimism pays off this month with a nice BFP! Amie hope the IUI has gone well
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Bambeana
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Posted: 13 April 2015 at 11:22am |
I took my last Provera last night but AF is here today. No 5 day withdrawal to bring her on. Rude tart. This confuses me now, I start letrozole in three days, take them up till CD7 then we BD from CD10-CD20 but when do I get my bloods done?
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Merrily
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Posted: 13 April 2015 at 1:04pm |
Hi All!
Well we are patiently waiting for our next appointment with FA on the 22nd... golly time drags sometimes doesn't it! Anyway I have just found out about lipiodol (popppy seed oil) flush, which looks like it helps 'unexplained infertility' like us get naturally pregnant... has anyone had this done? success? know where/who actually does it? It would be magic if there was something helpful to try before going the whole hog on IVF...
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Posted: 13 April 2015 at 1:14pm |
Hi Ladies, Thanks for all the advise re the constipation! I spoke to the nurses and they said I was fine to take some of my herbal supplements but not to take them after embryo transfer so will be keeping all the suggestions in the back of my head. HT have never heard of the lemon juice and olive oil one, will be trying that one in the next few weeks I'm sure!
Good luck with IUI HT! I hope things have gone well for you today Aime.
Yay for the IVF paper work mushroom, it will come around quickly now that the ball is rolling.
BC I remember you talking about the Intralipid iv a while back but can't quite remember what it was about now - can you explain again?
Had my 2nd scan this morning (and what a terrible one at that, I was almost in tears, not a lady I have had before). Have got a few biggish follicles and loads of small ones, triggering tomorrow with EC on Thursday. Not feeling very hopeful for this round, hopefully my feelings change.
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babycrazy
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Posted: 13 April 2015 at 4:27pm |
Not an expert by any means on intralipid but it was discussed with specialist. From what I remember Basically it's the same fats they feed ppl who are on a feeding tube. It's done via IV at a certain time in the cycle and can apparently have on lowering natural killer cells. We all have these and they're designed to protect from foreign things entering your body (viruses etc) but for some ppl they work too well and it's though they attack embryos thinking they need to be got rid of. The research is very new and it's not sure it even works but is not dangerous to do and pretty cheap. They do one before transfer then one at bfp and another around 12wks. I haven't discussed it again and he was going to take my case to one if their clinical practice meetings so much chase up on that. I'll be keen to try it if recommended. Got nothing to lose and have already tried the Colorado approach with no joy. Hope that makes sense?!!
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Posted: 13 April 2015 at 4:56pm |
Hey merrily I've just done some googling on lipiodal flushing and it sounds interesting... Looks like repromed in Auckland offer it. I think I might ask my specialist about it next time I see him. Would def be keen to hear if anyone has tried it or knows anyone who has?
Thinking of you all x
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Amie174328
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Posted: 13 April 2015 at 8:12pm |
Thanks Mushroom and HT. All went well today. We both have tomorrow off work which will be nice after the last few days of scans, blood tests etc. Was going to have a sleep in but still one more blood test first thing to check my LH surge is on its way down bugger.
Now just got to get through a looonnnggg two weeks.
HT, is it still looking like Thursday for you? Thinking of you x
Merrily that lipiodal flush sounds interesting. We're unexplained infertility so far too so would be interested to hear what you find out.
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heavenly.talker
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Posted: 13 April 2015 at 9:36pm |
Been logging in to see how you went Amie. Glad everything is good :-). Enjoy your day off, that sounds like bliss!
I have another blood test first thing to see if LH is going up, hopefully we will be triggering this timeish tomorrow evening and on for Thursday morning. Our big boy turns five on Friday, our boys's 5th and 4th birthday parties are on Saturday, family gathering on Sunday for an 80th. Back to school and kindy on the Monday and our little fella turns four on Tuesday. We really need the body to play ball on this and give us Thursday as the last possible day for IUI. I have been baking with the kids and buying up the party stuff and getting everything organised just in case life throws us a sucky timeline curveball. lol. That would be a real laugh, everyone turns up to the kids party only to find me and hubby not there and we rock up half way through ;-)
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Posted: 14 April 2015 at 11:34am |
Hi everyone, I have been MIA lately but reading along. Have been really struggling emotionally and just hunkering down a bit. I thought I’d pipe up though as I had my tubes flushed about 6 weeks ago now. There is some really encouraging research that Neil Johnson (Repromed) has done which you can find online but in a nutshell I believe it is beneficial for those of us with endometriosis or unexplained infertility because it makes for a friendlier environment for eggs to mature and for an embryo to implant. Repromed is the only fertility clinic that offer the lipiodol flush currently, but my gynaecologist referred me to the radiology department at the public hospital to have it done, and I believe this happens regularly as an investigative procedure rather than therapeutic. My referral form called it a ‘lipiodol hysterosalpingogram’.
It starts out just like a smear – the speculum goes in and then they put a balloon type thing in to ‘plug’ your cervix while they feed in the poppy seed oil (lipiodol) with a tube. All going well, the oil goes up into your uterus and through your tubes and this shows up in the xrays. Some people can experience pain particularly if there is a blockage in the tubes as they need to exert a certain amount of pressure. Then they take another xray to test how well the oil disperses into the pelvic cavity – if it hangs around it can indicate scar tissue which can hinder interaction between the ovary and the tube.
Mine went really well, with my tubes being clear and the oil dispersing pretty well. I felt no pain, just a bit uncomfortable like any time a speculum is involved! I was a little tired and off kilter afterward but that was probably just the nerves bleeding off. I’m not holding out a lot of hope after finding out our sperm morphology is an issue as well, but I’m hoping there may be some positive effect for IVF in a few months – that’s just me though – no research to back that up that I know of!
I hope that helps to explain it – let me know if you have any questions! Thinking of you all and wishing you all the best with treatment and general well-being – this is so freakin hard, and although I wouldn’t wish it on anyone it is good to know there are people out there who understand xx
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Posted: 14 April 2015 at 1:47pm |
Thanks Dolly, that interesting - sounds totally comfy- heh, just like this whole adventure. Will be interesting to see if it works out for you! Did you have to pay for the procedure, or was it funded?
I will definitely ask my specialist what she thinks about it next week - I'll let you guys know what she says.
Its confusing to understand the wording around the effect of it I think - what i have read says there is a 2-fold increase in pregnancy in the following 6 months for 'unexplained infertility' - but given that our chance of getting pregnant naturally in the next 6 months is tiny anyway, is double that really small chance going to be worth it if it costs $1000 (which is a cost i read somewhere but then couldn't find again). But, if we are having IVF in the next 6 months and it increases the chances of that being successful... maybe it is worth it.
Sigh - just like everything TTC-related. Endless questions and no 'right' answers.
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Posted: 14 April 2015 at 2:14pm |
I hear ya Merrily! There is no right answer but I figure a) it will help your chances and b) if they find anything then it may reduce your time waiting for IVF. Plus c) if you can get it done at the public hospital like I did then it's free. Another option may be to have a laparoscopy - I didn't know I had endo until I had mine. They can flush your tubes at the same time. It is definitely more invasive than the HSG though.
One thing about the HSG - it is so amazing seeing all 'the works' up on the x-ray screen! I said at one point "woah, my vagina looks enormous!" The nurse was like "um... remember the speculum is still in...." haha whoops, blonde moment :)
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Posted: 14 April 2015 at 2:28pm |
Haha nice comment! :-)
I had never heard of HSG - I wonder why it isnt used more as a less invasive investigation than a laparoscopy - or maybe it is and i'd just never heard of it - I'll have to make a list of questions for the specialist I think!
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Posted: 14 April 2015 at 7:41pm |
Fingers crossed it's Thursday HT so that you can enjoy your boys' birthdays and the party (and hoping no. 3 arrives for you in January so you don't have 3 birthdays in April!).
Dolly thanks so much for that info. It sounds like the same procedure as for an HSG which I had in January but poppy seed oil sounds a bit more therapeutic than dye.
I had my blood test this morning and LH was on its way down so I'm now officially TWW'ing. Will just try to keep as healthy and stress-free as I can. I'm on day 10 without coffee and tea which is a huge achievement for me. I used to get a headache if I didn't have one by mid-morning so good to be kicking the habit. Not sure that it makes a difference but I feel better doing something to help our chances.
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Posted: 15 April 2015 at 5:49pm |
Argggh. I have ovulation pain (I triggered at midnight yesterday) for IUI 12noon tomorrow. What do you think ladies? Left ovary has been griping since 3pm today and right is just starting. They have been monitoring surge with daily bloods so surely I can't be releasing the eggs yet. It's not 36 hours.
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Posted: 15 April 2015 at 6:33pm |
I think you'll be ok HT. Your ovaries will plumping up ready to go is all esp with the drugs you've been taking. Mine do the same just before ec. Good luck hun xxx
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Posted: 15 April 2015 at 7:30pm |
you can get ov pain ages before you ov, or even after you ov, or not at all! everyones different. your ovaries are probably getting nice and plump and you are bound to feel that. means theres hopefully lots of lovely eggies just waiting for tomorrow xxx i caved and tested today- BFN. will wait until monday then get bloods done to see if i can stop the progesterone or not. i have no symptoms of anything- at all... not sure if thats a good thing or not lol. time will tell!
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Posted: 16 April 2015 at 7:04am |
Good luck for today HT! *hugs* Soda - fxd the bloods have better news for you Dolly - lovely to hear from you, thanks for sharing your lipidiol experience. I hope it works a miracle for you and you don't need your ivf! Sorry to hear you've been finding it tough lately, this sure is one hell of a journey we are all on and it sure takes some emotional stamina. Know you are an incredibly strong woman but it's okay to have days where it all seems too hard, unfair etc and we are always here if you need a listening ear
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Posted: 16 April 2015 at 7:19am |
Bfn again today so thinking im out. Never mind too much to do this month with house renos etc and at least bub and DD wont possibly share a birthday...so I guess its a good thing (so she tells herself...) always next month- third clomid rounds a charm-right?
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