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Sweetpea11
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Posted: 18 October 2016 at 11:46am |
Quiet in here today!
AFM, i am just cruising a long. Haven't been very well and think my immune system is a bit shot at the moment. Had to go see my GP yesterday and on antibiotics now so hoping that kicks the bugs away. Thinking i might pop down to the natural store to get something for my immune system. I feel ok now about the last FET. It's funny how time seems to smooth the hurt and hardness of things. Looking forward to the next one!
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#1 was natural after 14months of TTC TTC#2 Jun 12 IVF #1 July 16 - 8 frosties FET#1 Sept - CP FET#2 Jan 17 - BFP, DD born Oct 17
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Posted: 18 October 2016 at 1:29pm |
Hi all,
Just a quick update - first hurdle passed as my hcg is currently doing well. Was 170 on Friday, and was 600 on Monday. I won't be testing again until next Monday and hope to see a big number then!
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Me: 35, PCOS, endo, DH: 34, severe MFI 6+ yrs TTC#2 M/C 2012, clomid 2013, IVM 2014, IVF 2015, M/C 2015 2016 FET#1- BFP - MMC - Emergency D&C FET#2 - BFN Jul 16 - stage 3 endo removed. Oct 16 BFP
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Sweetpea11
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Posted: 18 October 2016 at 1:46pm |
Yay Mushroom that's great!
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#1 was natural after 14months of TTC TTC#2 Jun 12 IVF #1 July 16 - 8 frosties FET#1 Sept - CP FET#2 Jan 17 - BFP, DD born Oct 17
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Posted: 18 October 2016 at 3:31pm |
Yay some good news here. I hope your HCG continues to rise perfectly Mushroom! How exciting to get such a positive start.
Yay for heartbeat Bonnie, that makes anything bad happening way less likely. You would have to be so unlucky now.
Sweetpea, i am in a similar boat. I have got totally run down, went to Dr yesterday to and got antibiotics also... Dr was saying that physical health and mental wellbeing is closely linked and physical symptoms can be due to the trauma your body/mind has been through blah blah blah. Basically telling me to be kind to body.
I would be interested in what natural boosters you end up with. I think i should also have a dose of something to get things on track again.
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heavenly.talker
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Posted: 18 October 2016 at 4:46pm |
Fantastic news Mushroom xx
Day 62 Sweetpea. Totally feeling your pain with the long cycles
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TTC our 3rd child 5+ yrs. Self-funding. Over 55 medicated cycles. 3 m/c's iuis, ivf with ICSI fresh BFN, 1 FET BFN. PCOS horrible. Endo and adhesions from c-sects resected. DH few wrigglers. FAITH!
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Posted: 18 October 2016 at 5:53pm |
Great news mushroom!
Wow HT that's one long cycle!!!
AFM currently day 23 and I think 10dpo , AF due Sunday and been having on and off niggling pains right down by pubic bone but to the side so of course I'm thinking ooo what if! But at least I get to start ivf at the end of this cycle which makes the outcome of this cycle not so obsessive haha
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TTC #1 On wait list for public IVF since July 2015 IVF #1 Oct 2016 - 1 blast frozen FET Nov 2016 - BFN IVF #2 May - 1 fresh transfer BFP but ended in early miscarrage. 5 in freezer FET June 2017 BFP
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Posted: 18 October 2016 at 8:58pm |
Very quick lurk session...my first since I left because I've been thinking of you all.
Storm I'm gutted you've had another CP! Gah. I wanted to PM you but where has that function gone??? Anywho thinking of you all the time.
Mushroom - wow congrats hun. Stoked for you.
HT and Agirl I see you're still in the trenches. Much love and much love to anyone I've missed. And congrats to those of you who've managed to crack the formula. Star all the best for the final weeks - exciting!!!
I'm doing ok - learning to live life not ruled by TTC and busy as ever. Take care all.
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Sweetpea11
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Posted: 18 October 2016 at 9:00pm |
Oh HT they are a real b@#th aren't they. I know how you feel hun. Did you do a HPT at all or just waiting it out? Lulu, not fun aye. Yes, I got the same speech and I already know all that so guess we just need to be reminded. Will try get natural booster tomorrow aND will let you no. Yay Faith, not long. I hope AF is on time for you for IVF but if by some chance of the 'maybe' then it can be very very late
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Posted: 18 October 2016 at 9:03pm |
Nice to hear from you BC xxx thanks for dropping in and glad your OK
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#1 was natural after 14months of TTC TTC#2 Jun 12 IVF #1 July 16 - 8 frosties FET#1 Sept - CP FET#2 Jan 17 - BFP, DD born Oct 17
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Posted: 18 October 2016 at 10:02pm |
Bc!! Great to hear from you. Think of you often. Mushroom bloody fantastic news made my day reading that! Fingers and toes and anything else I can cross for a smooth journey for you. Afm- nothing to report - still waiting on surgery... Been hitting gym and trying to control some aspect of my life as I cant control the whole Ivf process. Weird it feels good to take some control back. As always my darlings I have everything crossed for you all as we go along this grossly unfair road.
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Posted: 19 October 2016 at 8:41am |
BC :-). Missing you on here so much! yay, for posting... thanks :-). Glad that you are discovering a new way of life without TTC.
I haven't tested since day 34 which was a negative (this is near the end of my normal cycle). I did however wake up the other day with all the symptoms gone the day after having some grumbles on the left side. I'm picking AF in around 10 days. If that doesn't happen I will call FA and get some bloods done. I do have a wee lone test sitting in the cupboard if I feel the need to test. Depressingly, I have to face the facts that the growth of my belly is due to a food baby and not a baby grrr. Why do I do it to myself *shakes head* Good for you for gymming kiwi :-) Totally get the wondering kiwi... you do hear of those miracle conceptions before IVF round starts ;-).
Have a lovely day all xx
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Posted: 19 October 2016 at 8:50am |
HT i think the long cycles are the worst! They do you head in with the 'what if's' and its just not fair. I would be ringing for that blood test as well to see what is going on. Hopefully your AF is arriving soon and doesn't take too long to get here for your peace of mind Storm, good luck for your appointment today! Keep us posted!
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#1 was natural after 14months of TTC TTC#2 Jun 12 IVF #1 July 16 - 8 frosties FET#1 Sept - CP FET#2 Jan 17 - BFP, DD born Oct 17
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Posted: 19 October 2016 at 12:59pm |
It has been a bit quiet in here!
Mushroom one hurdle at a time huh! Sounding great so far though. Congratulations!
Faith I hope your little niggles mean something exciting! hehe and if not, it'll be the one time you'll be totally waiting out for AF to arrive so you can get started lol
Oh BC hun, it's so nice to hear from you. I think of you alot and wonder how you're getting on. Thanks for popping in and your kind words! Weird about the PM function, hadn't even realised that had gone. Strange. Might be worth a msg to Admin? Am so pleased you are doing ok with where you are at hun, taking care of you and your hubby is the important thing huh!
HT sheez! I feel for you and your annoying super long cycle hun!! When do you think you'll cave and pull out the HPT I know will be calling your name? hehe
Sweetpea glad you are feeling ok about your last FET. Totally get that it takes a little time, I feel the same too! Not good you haven't been too well though - look after yourself! Have you decided when the next transfer will be? And thanks - appointment went well. He was super lovely - gave me a hug haha and said, we're not allowed to do that, but I think I needed to give it to you haha he is lovely. And to be honest, totally stumped as to why this keeps happening. He's happy with all the recurrent miscarriage tests he's done - twice now - and doesn't think I need anymore. He had spoken to the head of their scientific research something or rather lol and he had too suggested that perhaps it's time we get the embryos tested. HT I had mentioned to him what you had mentioned to me about the fact it seems the embryo just stops developing once it's in the uterus and he said totally, and it could very well be due to aneuploidy (which is what they call the abnormal embryos). He thinks that perhaps it's a matter of my body actually be quite fertile, and not really catching up to the fact that the embryo transferred shouldn't be implanted, but it is anyway and therefore it stops developing properly. Was all very scientific really lol I asked him about the fact that surely one embryo from the last 6 would've been normal and he said not necessarily and it's all a numbers game. Which we all know too well!!! So we'll start next IVF as soon as my next cycle starts, and if we get 3 or more embryos make it to day 5 they'll be tested. If only 2, we'll just go straight ahead and transfer them! So here we go..... AF due in the next day or two, so straight back in to it. He's also going to bring my case forward to a group wide meeting he is having next week to see if any other specialists, scientists etc have any other insight etc - which he had to get my permission for of course!
Eeek sorry for the long post!
Hope everyone else is doing well!
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Posted: 19 October 2016 at 1:21pm |
That is really good news Storm :-) I am happy that SP is working really hard to get extra eyes and ears on your case. For what it is worth (and frankly I know nothing lol) I think you should ask about the additional injection of HCG after transfer. That seems to be the key difference between drug protocols between NZ cycles and what that lady in the article did. It may be that your trigger to stay pregnant is not flicking over... they normally attribute this to not enough progesterone, but it may be that you need an artificial dose of HCG at that time to keep embie boggying? Surely there would be no harm in trying anyways. Here is a link to some discussion about progesterone or HCG after transfer. http://haveababy.com/fertility-information/ivf-authority/post-ivf-luteal-phase-support I look forward to hearing what comes back from the working group meeting... they are making break throughs in protocols and understanding of embies all the time, so you might be one of the leading lights who shows the way for cases such as yours :-)
I'm also happy to hear you are going for another dual transfer... woot woot. ;-)
Have a happy afternoon.
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Posted: 19 October 2016 at 2:58pm |
That sounds good storm hopefully they can get some answers for you or that the embryo testing sheds some light! Also yay that we will be doing our cycle round the same time :)
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Posted: 19 October 2016 at 3:38pm |
HT thanks for your wisdom and research The doc also mentioned to me that my PGS will somewhat be diagnostic for me aswell. If it turns out some are abnormal then there is at least some light shed, and if they aren't then that'll also shed some light. I did have a couple of things I wanted to say to him about, what if we try this and that, including the HCG shot, but decided I'll wait till at least we have results of the tests, and have an embryo to transfer. Faith yaye for same cycles! Although I think AF will be here for me tomorrow eeeek so will be starting Puregon on Fro night - which is good timing cause I go back to FA Friday lunchtime to collect my drugs! So we'll only be a few days apart
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Posted: 19 October 2016 at 4:16pm |
Hey all, have been AFK while recovering from my D&C then was struck down with a horrible cold. I'm well onto the road to recovery and have a plan in place for IVF2. I had to laugh that I can tell it's time for another twanding when I shave my legs (which I had to do the other day). With winter it's been a while since I've bothered!
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Posted: 19 October 2016 at 5:29pm |
Hey storm, been lurking again & it like BC it wouldn't let me send a PM. (Waves quietly to everyone else still here)
About PGS, they recommend it as a large percentage of Cps & early miscarriages are down to chromosomal abnormalities, so if pgs comes back with a high level of abnormalities they can infer that its an egg quality issue rather than an implantation issue. Having always got Day 5 blasts we didnt think egg quality was an issue, but PGS suggested otherwise. Something else you could look at - melatonin is being shown to help improve egg quality, think the recommend taking it for a month or 2 but I'd imagine any length of time you can take it before collection has got to help. its prescription only though, but your specialist should be able to help out there if you ask. Also our DR said Coq10 is having some good results in research studies for helping with egg quality also. Another thing that was recommended for us was doing the colorado protocol, but taking the steroid up til testing day rather than just for 5 days like usual. And on top of that the Dr we saw in auckland for a 2nd opinion, suggested intralipids - theres a couple of variations on timing for it, and its not the cheapest option (its not covered by fert cover), not heaps of research backing it but the dr in auckland has had some patients have success with it, and its given quite often in the USA. If you haven't already had it, i'd recommend getting the DNA fragmentation done on the sperm - that is something that can be improved quite easily with diet if the test does show up an issue. its about $250 and takes about 10days to get the results back though. Anyway, feel free to email me craftea.chic@gmail.com if you have any more questions (I'm trying to stop lurking!) - and anyone else is welcome to email too :)
good luck to everyone.
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Posted: 19 October 2016 at 5:53pm |
Hi Craftea and BC... I miss you ladies! thanks for popping in and saying hello. Craftea, all that you mentioned is exactly what gets talked about in my pgd facebook group. I've been taking melatonin and CoQ10 (I get it from the states super cheap) for about it year now. We had both been on it for months before round 3, but unfortunately it didn't make a lick of difference for us. The studies look good though!
Anydaynow, I'm exactly the same! haha. You can tell when I have my apt by when my legs get shave. I wonder how long I'd let it go if I didn't have any apts...
Gosh, HT, long cycles like that must really test your patience. I get so antsy with waiting - my long cycle a few months back really mucked with my head.
Storm, I'm glad your apt went well. Sounds like a good plan with the genetic testing. You'd be SOOO surprised at how may women send off day 5 blastocysts and they all come back abnormal. So I understand why they it's a numbers game. The numbers are so varied in my pgd group - some people get like 7 normal embryos and others get none. Such a crap shoot! I've been wondering a bit lately about the mitochondrial issues that have been talked about in the media. It's like the embryos with mito issues just run out of steam. They actually have a test (not sure if its in nz or not) that tests to see if your mitochondria is sub optimal for development. And finally...do you remember NZveg? her and I have had a few conversations about "super fertility" and early mc. Like our bodies are really good at getting utd but really bad at knowing it's not compatible with life. I actually think there has been some research done on that too.
As for me, we FINALLY get to do a down reg blood test tomorrow morning and hopefully start estrogen soon. I can't wait! I'm so over these night sweats. last night it was my knees?!?! THe night before that it was the tops of my feet. it's so weird.
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Posted: 20 October 2016 at 10:08am |
The private message thing is really weird. Seems the admin have disabled it. Which is a real shame cause it was great. Wonder if any of them can confirm that? Craftea it's so nice to hear from you! Thanks so much for popping in with that info! Think I will look into Coq10 and melatonin. We have had the DNA fragmentation done for DH and I am always on the colorado. But I think when we come to do our next FET - given we have normal embryos - I am going to talk to him about other things to help with implantation. My doc at FA is very researched focused so I don't know how he'll go with things that are proven in the states etc and not used so much here. We won't be doing a transfer till early next year now anyway. Results take 4-6 weeks to come back which will be around mid Dec and might be pushing it close to their cut off date. So will take a (much needed) break over christmas and get back to it January With taking things for egg improvement, that isn't necessarily going to change the outcome of the PGS is it? If it's a chromosome test? A.girl man yaye for finally nearing the end of your down reg! Let us know how you get on with your bloods today. Interesting you and NZVeg have had that conversation, that's exactly what my doc was saying yesterday, that he thinks my body perhaps just doesn't register it's a bad embryo. Although I'm still at odds about it actually being the issue cause I'd be very surprised if that's been the issue for all of my embryos and the cause of all of my CP's, but guess it can still be the case which will be totally su*ky!! AF is def here so day 1 for me today - onto injections tomorrow night!!
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