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    Posted: 14 December 2014 at 12:10pm
DH and I have been TTC for 26 months now and I had a mc 7 months ago and a chemical pregnancy 3 weeks ago. Doctor has referred us to fertility clinic and first appointment in January 2015. I'm excited about the appointment yet nervous and worried about what the outcome maybe.
I've been reading trying to find out info about the public funding and just wanting to know from others what was the waiting time before you started your treatment with public funding? Did you try any private funded treatment while waiting? What was the costs like? Worried that the waiting list is going to be years and not being able to afford private treatment.

Any advice would be great.
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Hi. Sorry to hear about your losses. I've had similar and it sucks!
I can tell you a little bit about costs and waits.
My dh has no sperm so we use a donor. We had 4x public funded insems to start with and waited 6mths from going on the list to starting treatment. They weren't successful so we had a round of public ivf which we were able to start straight away. From this I had a chemical and a mc. That led us to paying for our own which cost $13000 around about. We work with Wellington FA. Someone else might know wait times for ivf there but I think it's around 8-12mths. Waits vary between cities too.
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We were 3 years, trying for our second child. Before we started treatment I had surgery to see if all was in order, to discover I had blocked tubes after our first child's birth - so we couldn't get pregnant at all... so termed as explained infertility. IVF the only option for us to get the eggs to where they needed to be. We already had one child, so it was 3 years trying as at August 2014, which meant, based on our circumstances, we qualified for public funding, and we were on the IVF waitlist and booked to start IVF July 2015 - so a 11 month wait. We didn't wait. We paid privately for one round of IVF in August - $11,000 - also Wellington FA, and it worked first time for us, with two additional embryo's in the freezer :-) A couple of weeks ago we got our letter telling us we'd been taken off the public list as we obviously didn't need our spot now :-)
The waitlist is a points system based on circumstances - I didn't research it too much - our specialist worked it all out. It seemed to be a date the clinic worked out rather than there necessarily being a queue of people - that's what it seemed like anyway...

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Thanks for the replies ladies.
I've been referred to the Hamilton clinic, so don't know if anyone else out there has had experience with the Hamilton clinic? Would like to hear your experiences.

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Def ppl on here using Hamilton. Unfortunately I think their wait is almost the longest in the country but hopefully someone else can say otherwise. The ttc 12mths plus thread is quite active (in planning pregnancy section) so jump in there if you want :)
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Hmmm that was one of my worries. Thanks I'll go and have a look at that thread :)
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Hi, unfortunately the Hamilton wait is around 20 mths atm for normal IVF :( 
You can have a look on FA's website for prices for private treatment if you want to see - IVF is around 10-13k per cycle. One advantage is general appointments at Hamilton are the cheapest.
The wait list is definitely first-come first-served - you just need enough points to get on the waiting list, which generally you try to do asap even if you're going to try other things in the mean time.

You might find you don't need to go down the IVF route however - obviously you must be ovulating, and your hubby must have some sperm to get pregnant in the first place, so it's working out why you can't get further than that.

Points for public funding are based on:
- Cause of infertility - are there known male/female factors preventing successful pregnancy that IVF can overcome.
- Duration of infertility - the longer you've been trying, the more points you get. If they don't know why you're infertile after tests you have to have tried for 5+ years, otherwise people qualify earlier than that.
- Health/Lifestyle points - you need to be moderately healthy, BMI less than 32, non-smoker.
- Doctor's opinion - I'm pretty sure there are a few points the doctor can determine based on whether they think IVF is the best option or not for you.

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Thanks for you feed back Mushroom. I'm hoping that we get pregnant without IVF but I'm just at the point where I really don't know anything and guess after our first appointment with fertility doctor that we will have a clearer picture of what we need to try.
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Hi kiwilifestyle, my hubby and i have been trying for 16 months, i turn forty this year so we applied for public funding as the cut off for women is 40 years for public funding. WE didn't even qualify to get on their list. I thought given my age and how long we had been trying we would get public funding, fully expecting to wait at least two years.
So a bit shocked when we didnt. You need last 63 points to get on the list we got 7. We have our first private appt on Tuesday cost $270. They can refer you through for public funding at any stage.. The website i used for info was this one and its quite good. http://www.fertilityassociates.co.nz. Good luck!!
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Hi HarietCowie
We just had our first appointment this weekend (2 weeks early, as they had a time free to see us). Our first app was free but not sure if we will get funding or not yet. I have to get a scan to see if my tubes are blocked and hubby has to check sperm checked again, and these test will cost about $1000 but I can go on the waiting list for my scan.
I'm surprised that the points where so low for you, did you get any answers from your first app as to what be causing infertility? I found out that I have PCOS.
Are you going to try any other forms of treatment e.g. acupuncture etc..?
I went to my first acupuncture app on Thursday, felt really good after and she advised me to start taking a couple of different health tablets to help with hormones.
What clinic are you going through?
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Appointment is this Tuesday, so will let you know what he says! We went through our GP to apply for public funding, for that I had to have a bunch of blood test, and they had to be on the third day of your ovulation. My husband had some blood tests and then a perm test. All our results came back ok. You also fill out a brief questionnaire and they look at this and the results. They then give you a score.

I was a little cross as we held off booking to see specialist until we found if we got funding. They took 3.5 months to tell us that we didn't. Given that we had such a low score i would of thought it was obvious we wouldn't.

Still not sure why given my age and length of trying.
So we will see the doctor this week and see what he says. We are going through http://www.fertilityassociates.co.nz. On the website they list all their pricings for different procedures etc. Who are you going through, pretty good getting the first appointment free. we havent tried anything else yet but we may give acuptunure a go. Just trying to balance it all and not feel like I am a test bunny or in the middle of a science experiment if you know what I mean.
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Did you change your user name Kiwigirl? Cause wondering how I typed a different name (bit confused lol).
Anyhow....that's interesting cause I asked my GP to refer us and she did and we also had lots of blood test and sperm tests done and as far as I know they were all good. Filled out questionnaire and then got a letter in the mail a couple of weeks later with appointment. We didn't get told our score.
We have to go back in about 6 weeks time, and in the mean time hubby has to do another sperm test as they testing for something else and I have to do my scan to check that tubes aren't blocked but have decided to ask to be referred to hospital as privately it will cost about $500-$600 and sperm test already costing $360. All these things add up (doctor said these tests aren't covered under funding).
We don't actually know if we have got funding for treatments yet, need to write a list of questions to ask next visit.
We went to the Hamilton fertility clinic as that's where my GP referred us to, we are from Rotorua.
I was a bit spectacle about acupuncture but because I have read lots of good things I thought why not give it a go. I left there feeling so calm and relaxed (before I went in I had a headache, mind was all over the place worrying etc...).
I'm also going to look at contacting Patient Advocates they are meant to be good at helping to prevent you from having miscarriages before you get pregnant that's what I am going to need. But they also do lots of other treatments. Check them out www.patientadvocates.co.nz.
Good luck for Tuesday if I don't talk to you before then.
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Kiwigirl - I might be able to help you understand your score.
Pretty much the CPAC score (clinical priority assessment criteria) is a points average for a) How likely you are to be able to conceive without medical help, b) How likely you will conceive *with* medical help, and c) any factors that can be changed to improve chances naturally (like smoking, heavily overweight, etc).
With (a) if you have a known cause of infertility such as pcos, low sperm count, endo, etc you gain points for needing medical help, and you gain points the longer you have been trying. Generally you have to have been trying for at least 12 mths, and if there is no known cause of infertility you have to have been trying for 5 years. For myself, with known male and female factors, we had to have been trying for 3 years before we had enough points as we already have one child.
If you haven't have any testing done, you are unlikely to get a high score - so I'd get that done asap.
With (b) it depends on what is wrong as to whether it can be fixed medically. I believe you actually lose points after 35, as IVF is less likely to work as you get older, and why after 40 you become ineligible as there is only so much IVF can actually do.

Hope that helps!
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Can highly recommend patients advocates. Used them to treat pms before we found out our issues and it helped a great deal.
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Thanks for all the advice, Yip Kiwilifestyle I did change my settings. Didn't realize I had my name on display rather than my screen name! Opps!
Mushroom thanks for explaining the CPAC score! All our GP could say oh that's weird I can resubmit your application! I was like "really, what makes you think it will suddenly go from a 7 to 63"!

I have mixed feelings about tomorrow, everyone keeps saying its a good thing to do as it may help us know why its taking so long. Which logically I understand but i feel like I have just failed some kind of exam that everyone can pass but me!! I guess it's just not knowing what to expect, feel like we about to get on a big rollercoaster ride!!

Also have started to suffer being a little emotional just before my period is due. This is a new thing as I have never had any form of pms. Its not bad, just a little flat and quick too tear up and as hubby puts it a little needy!! These are not my normal qualities. Also over the last few periods I have been having light bleeding/spotting a 7/10 days before my period. Hoping that this change isnt for any real reason.

But as the hubby says it will be good to speak to someone who should be able to give us some answers!! Will be in touch after the appointment.

Thanks again for all the advice!!
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Right been to the fertility specialist and feel much better.
He was basically like you need to be doing something. I now have to have blood test on day 2, 10, 20 of my cycle and any day I have any spotting. Also I have to have a scan to check tubes etc. Had to laugh he thought it cost 300-400 but i ran up this morning and its $760!! Ouch!

Hubby has to have sperm test again as for some reason the hospitals don't seem to check one aspect which he would like them to do. A little frustrating doing some of the tests again.

He also is doing some of my bloods again on slightly different days so he can see if he can push for public funding which is cool. Not holding out too much hope on that one but you never know!!

He has also said if these test dont reveal anything which he doesn't really think they will we will being going down the ivf route not iui. So we need to talk about what that means and if we dont get funding what we want to do.

He was really good, knew his stuff! So much better than my Gp who just was like at your age you have only a 7% chance each month and it could take a long time.

He also said the wait list for public funding is now 10 months for the south island, the urgency with me is that I am only 10 months away from my 40th so we need to get everything done asap in case i can get funding.

Thanks for all the support!
Cant wait to hear how you are all going. Fingers crossed for positive results.
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Good to hear you have a plan in place!

Pretty sure with funding, if your specialist finds anything wrong that qualifies you for funding, then it's your age at time of approval (not when your ticket come up) that matters. Be glad your in the SI where the waiting lists are half of that of the upper NI!
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Yeah i was surprised as I had heard a while back that the south island's list was longer but seems things have changed. Most of the test I am having he doesnt expect to find anything but he really wants to do them just in case, cause if he finds anything then we should get funding. Got my fingers and toes crossed for a a successful July for you!
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**Lurker in**
I'm 39. We went down the private route for our IVF, which was successful, but we had qualified for public and it was a 11 months wait, and our cycle was due to start July 2015. We didn't want to wait as that big 40 was fast approaching. My birthday is September - to use the public funding your cycle has to commence before you're 40... There's ways for them to wangle that part though if you do find yourself qualifying - that's sort of what happened for us - they checked when I was 40 and made sure I had my public booking for before that.

Best of luck xx

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Been told waiting list if we get public funding is 10 months, does anyone know how long you wait if you go private?
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