Fatal dangers of cold sores to newborns

i also want to say, that I get why our newbies posted and I wasnt offended by that at all.....I just wish I could articulate my thoughts better so they dont get misconrtued all the time. I think the benefit of being "known" on a site like this is people get to know your personality somewhat and can better gauge how you mean something.

I have had a look at the FB site and it is incredibly sad. I cant even begin to imagine what it would be like to lose a newborn. I came close to knowing when my first had to have a lumbar puncture at 3 days old for suspected meningitis but even coming close is not the same ( I imagine).

Yes it is sad that there are so many hoaxes and I hate getting sucked in. I recently got an email (from a lovely OB poster..he he) about a dog that needed a home. I was so taken in by it I even rang up DH to ask if we could have it....only to get an email shortly after apologising for the hoax they had just discovered.

As I have said, it was just a simple question, which got the required answer.

nzpiper wrote: I hate to say it...but is it true or one of those hoaxes? I ask because almost EVERYONE has antibodies to the cold sore virus. If it is true, I wouldnt be too concerned because it would have to be INCREDIBLY rare to happen. And it might not have been the herpes simplex virus that is to blame. Any virus may have had that result in a young baby which is why we take sick newborns so seriously. If it is true then it is incredibly sad...but I think it is also incredibly bad luck and not something to stress about. IYGWIM

JodyR.....I did say that, didnt I? Just re-reading my own post and I am horrified to read it the way it is written. As I said before that is not what I meant....and not what I thought I had written. I apologise for not making it clear. Can I blame baby brain for making a hell of a typo????

Hey, at least with all this debate, more people will be aware of it now

JodyR wrote: And if you can find a way to type stuff on the internet that doesn't get misunderstood then you'll be the first in internet history and I want to know your secret because I seem to type with one foot in my mouth on a regular basis.

I have to smile at this as I am cursed with it on a regular basis. Thank god I can click on EDIT!

JodyR wrote: Emiloly - I only wish I had an edit button for real life as well as internet life sometimes.

There is - I'm not sure of the technical term but I like to call it "Avoiding that person like the plague"

the edit button needs to be where what you are going to say comes out but isnt heard till you hear it first... and can change it! i would so love one of those.

JodyR yes please do come back and visit us - i think you'll find lots of stuff of interest on here.!

I have had this forum jog around in my head alot today. I see simply from the amount of times you have posted that you are a pretty tight knit community and we must have seemed like we were jumping in and launching attack. It really wasn't a claws situation, I certianly didn't hunt down the site and decide I could tell you what to do, I followed the link on Chalottes fb after she had commented that she was heartbroken by what she had read.

Emiloly I think it is wonderful that you chose to raise awareness. Very brave of you all to discuss it openly, as I know in my first pregnancy I couldn't have bared to think about the loss of a baby being a reality. You certianly haven't caused an arguement. I do wish that the forum had been made aware that Charlotte was given the link though. As much as you all know each other well and discuss topics openly it may have made a big different to know that Mira's mummy would see all this.

I am also sorry that there have been sickos herr who have hoaxed on the site, and also an army in there defense. Knowing that has thrown a whole other spin on my thoughts as I can totally see why you approach topics with caution. I have had more than enough mothers fake the loss of a baby and almost as bad, too many mother's who believe the actual loss of a baby is their passport to disrespecting everyone else who has endured the same loss. There are indeed too many freaks out there.

I also popped an introduction on the forum, I'm definatedly not JodyR in disguise, I wish I had her conduct as I did come on the the forum, quite angry and in very much Scrappy Dog style 'let me at em' mood.

summerlambs - reading your comment really did bring a breath of fresh air and the reason being this

lizzle - as I said above I now understand how we may have looked defending our lovely Charlotte. I will say this though, lossing my daughter very much changed how I precieve and do things. With all the love and passion I look at my living son with I know I also harbour it's equal in my heart for my daughter. So when I tell her story, it doesn't cross my mind for a minute that it will be disbelieved. Mira's story is very unique, it is baffling something that seems so simple, so trival could take the life of a baby, but it did. Charlotte will absolutely have expected questions about how? and what to do in case of? but I don't think for a minute she expeccted to stumble upon the question is this real. It's very real for her. The wounds of child loss run very deep and in our community of mothers who know that, we are passionate about ensuring that hurt is eased as much as possible. We aren't some exculsive club, believe me nobody would blooming well want to have membership, we just walk the same walk.

I lost my beautiful daughter in childbirth, it came as a complete shock following a fantastic healthy pregnancy. Therewere no complications, it was during early labour, the midwife listened to her heartrate several hours before, it was fine and there had been no indication of stress. All the test, blood results, placenta, cord etc results came back as normal. In the UK 50% of stillbirths are unaccounted for, so many mothers wondering why.   My second pregnancy was far from my text book first, I was stressed, I somehow contracted ecoli, I had a bleed towards the end, my relationship was in meltdown, I was unable to deal with my grief and was terrified about facing labour again. Seth was born by emergancy c-section having gone breech after induction, he arrived having a prolapsed cord with a true knot. All reasoning pointed to my healthy natural pregnancy having the outcome of a beaming baby. Instead I got to spend the most precious few hours of my life with my daughter knowing I would never see that sweet face again. Had Seth not gone breech I can't stomach to think of the outcome. But he did, he is with me and I often can't believe just how bless I am....even if he does create 10 times more work for mummy! Birth and life are full of strange happenings, some very strange but when they are your truth, when your way of loving your child is to use their story to raise awareness yes you are more open to comments and there will be many who may disbelieve but Charlotte seen these comments by invitation. My goodness you are at the other end of the world I couldn't have hunted down this site if I tried.

You are very lucky to have such a supportive online community and I don't mean to carry on injecting negativity on your forum but I do hope that you feel a little less invaded and realise that amongst the crazy strangers and defensive friends out there, we simple needed to pop in and say hey, it hurts like hell this side of the fence, please be a little cautious....Crossed wires are a terrible thing, hope they seem a little straighter, take care.

Alison x

p.s. another who can't live without the edit button, my spelling says it all....

Edited by littlepips

I have just read this thread, I won't say much about what NZpiper posted, i've had the privilege of being on this forum with her for awhile and I know what a kind , caring person she is ,so I know her comment was in no way meant to offend .

The only thing I want to say about it, is how very very sorry I am that a little baby died and I send Charlotte and her husband my deepest of sympathies .
I could not imagine losing my children , I think people that go through the loss of a child and still get up and face the day , are the bravest people in the world , and my heart goes out to you .
From a mother to a mother , I am so sorry for your loss .

Thanks, I'll just keep it in mind for my babies too then.