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    Posted: 25 April 2010 at 7:28pm
I have worked out how much us buying a house is really costing us this last 6 months versus renting.

So I took our bond payments for the last 5 months, plus our insurance rate increase (to cover the house itself too) and the rates and then subtracted the rent payments we would have made.

I didnt include water and those things as we had to pay that before as well. And we moved out so our petrol for the motorbike is a bit more but we are saving on other things and those things is more related to location.

And guess what. We are paying $501 more to have our own house. That is per month.

However our rent was a bit cheaper and never got an increase in rent ect. So if we take current rent price they are getting for it now it is only $300 a month extra.

That is it. I really expected it a bit more. However I didnt include things we are spending to make the house ours and no maintenance or repairs is included in the above.

Just some useless information for anyone that is bored and just reading every topic.


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Thanks for that random information, i often wonder that sort of stuff too........hence why we are still renting while only on one income its way less pressure than when we were building a house when i was pregnant and had to race out and get any old job when it was finished being built.

As much as i want to own a home to do our own things to it again etc im enjoying not having the pressure on me to work at the moment
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AandCsmum Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2010 at 7:55pm
I don't even think about it, but our mortgage is really little compared to what people have to get into a first home now. We have fully renovated ie right from new gib ( don't recommend!!) Just painting to go but sorta run out of money!

But our house is ours & we can't get kicked out by anyone except the bank
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I want to buy a house but don't think thats very likely till I go back to work , and DH is determined that wont happen til Ty and the next baby are at school





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Ours costs between $200-300 pm which is fab. Granted we are doing some minor alterations (new kitchen, french doors) but is a very liveable tidy bungalow on a decent section.

There's really no comparison if you have the means. They did a study recently (it aired on TV), with flatters, life-long renters and mortgage holders, no matter what way they looked at it, the mortgage holders came off better in the long run. Unfortunately, it's just so damn hard for people to get into the housing market in the first place
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote minik8e Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 April 2010 at 7:47am
It's far more expensive for us to own than rent....we were renting a huge 3 bdrm house on a large section, in town, and the rent was $300. We now own a small 2 bdrm house on a tiny section, which we are renovating cos it was pretty much original 1930s condition (so cold cold cold) and with rates and insurance it costs us close to $500 a week. Add in the cost of renovations and required maintenance (ie. the new plumbing and wiring we had to put in) and....yeah. But, it's ours and we can do what we want to it and not get kicked out for anything unless we don't pay our mortgage.
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we are going to be worse off renting - our mortgage was less than any rent we will have to pay...

i hate the thought too that if anything goes wrong - like with mamanee and her sewerage problem - that you are at the mercy of someone else to fix it. And if the kids damage it then i have to pay - and that could cut into your bond!


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And then you get people like us (well DP anyway) who have two mortgages and are renting . DP brought two pieces of land before I meet him, One he got years ago and has been trying to sell for 3 yrs now (anyone want a small section in Motuopa?), then before I moved in with him he brought 10acres just down the road, so has a mortgage of $300+ a wk, and we have $120 rent to pay. And doesnt' help that DPs boss is hopeless at paying him so he gets late payment penalties each month as well. At least he has sold half the 10acres so that money will help pay off some of the mortgage.

Being grown up isn't easy at all.
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Our mortgage maybe more than rent would be, however we now have an asset worth 350k plus that we only owe $170k on, in the last 4 years we have effectively saved 40k in reducing our original loan down from 210K.  There is no way we could ever imagine to have achieved that level by renting.

We are about to relocate to Akl and will be putting our house into property management, rent from tenants will cover the mortgage repayments. Effectively getting our mortgage paid for us for the next 3 years. 

In the end we figured we have to pay to live somewhere it may as well be our own home. No one can kick us out cause they want to sell the place, the only increase is when interest rates go up and we know when they're coming. 

By the time we return we'll have over 200k in equity we can use towards the purchase of our next property. There's a reason the richest people all have property investments. Cause they work.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote clover Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 April 2010 at 11:29am
Originally posted by caliandjack caliandjack wrote:

There's a reason the richest people all have property investments. Cause they work.



Only when you buy the right property at the right time and at the right price
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We are paying about $200 more a month than we were renting. In saying that we were renting a 1 bedroom flat out the back of my parents so we could save up to buy.
I know if we were to rent I don't think we could ever find a house for a little as what we are paying in mortgage, rates and house insurance etc.
I was thinking just the other day that if we ever got really stuck for money we could just rent out our house and easily make more than what would cover payments and just move back to my parents flat.

The tricky thing is getting into the market, I know we were incredibly lucky to get in to the house we are in when we did.


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Originally posted by summerlamb summerlamb wrote:

Originally posted by caliandjack caliandjack wrote:

There's a reason the richest people all have property investments. Cause they work.



Only when you buy the right property at the right time and at the right price


That's why you do you your homework and not only choose the property you want to live in but the property that is going to give you the best return on your investment.


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Yes, very true... and don't expect to become a mogul overnight, because adding value to a house takes a lot of time and work, and usually quite a bit more money. But if you are patient, and you don't mind living in a dive for a wee while, property investment is the way to go!
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we pay about $200 extra a month but we only have a two bedroom place (we would be in a two bedroom place if we were renting) if we ever wanted to move we could go to a cheaper area or for another $60,000 get a bigger house in this area.

even if you have to give something up to pay your mortgage you are still paying YOUR mortgage not someone elses!
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Our costs are exactly double (buying instead of renting). Its pretty scary.



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Ouch Azza. But at least in the end of the day it is yours. OUr landlord (also ex SA) told us that SA'cans apparently only settle really well if they get their own place even though it is so difficult to just get into the market.

We wouldnt have been able to afford in Howick. It is just too expensive. Luckily both of us wanted to get out of the city as such.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AzzaNZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2010 at 12:45pm
Originally posted by SMoody SMoody wrote:

Ouch Azza. But at least in the end of the day it is yours. OUr landlord (also ex SA) told us that SA'cans apparently only settle really well if they get their own place even though it is so difficult to just get into the market.

We wouldnt have been able to afford in Howick. It is just too expensive. Luckily both of us wanted to get out of the city as such.


Your landlord probably has a point... we are pretty dreadful about needing our own space.

It'd be different if we bought a cheaper place in a different area but we're pigheaded. Not sorry about it, we absolutely love our home... it just means that things are very tight financially.



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