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 Posted: 10 January 2011 at 1:59pm |
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.WHY would you ever trust the media? |
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Raspberryjam
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Posted: 10 January 2011 at 2:07pm |
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I cant imagine how it feels to have an autistic child, my nephew has some issues that sound very similar, but I dont see him so I dont have any experience with autism but I will say reading some of the stories and opinions makes me quite mad at the drug companies etc - why the hell do parents have to walk around with their fingers crossed - we have enough to deal with ! wouild be most humane that they do a study and report the truth - instead of the phony sh*t that lines their pockets
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Posted: 10 January 2011 at 4:13pm |
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.WHY would you ever trust the media? |
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Well it's the media saying he fabricated the study, so can you trust that? or did big pharma pay for that journalism? Just saying  When you read his side it's quite interesting, I am actually on the fence about whether he's even guilty or not, the parents of the children in the study are still on his side and weren't allowed to testify at his hearing, makes you wonder if he is the huge monster that the establishment and the media make him out to be.
On the other hand this guy loves vaccines and thinks all kids should get them forcibly by law and he has no other agenda, much, yet he barely gets a mention negatively in the media and often comes out voicing opinions on how safe vaccines are, greater claims than the manufacturers make and what a monster Wakefield is.
This is one negative piece on him in the media
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uykFDR8USRg
Oh and thank goodness our kids don't get 55 shots by age 6 
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Posted: 10 January 2011 at 4:21pm |
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I was having an interesting discussion with my GP (in the staffroom at work type of discussion) and she had vaxxed her daughter only to have a bad reaction to MMR at 15 months. So when it got to the 4yr vax she questioned the need and found that its only a catch up vax to get the 20% that didnt gain immunity first time round!!!!! If you wanted to get a blood test done to check immunity you could then avoid the 4yr vax. Now I am not sure I would want to put my child through a blood test...but it is worth thinking about. Especially if you were getting a blood test done for any other reason.
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See this is why you can't trust your GP to have a great knowledge of vaccines, she should have already have known that the booster shot is not a booster shot at all and is only used to pick up those that didn't respond to the first round of jabs, all additional jabs are for that purpose. She only knows cos her OWN child had a reaction, what about her patients children? didn't they deserve her to already have that knowledge before giving vaccines out?
The wording booster jab like immunisation is nothing more than false advertising. A second or third jab doesn't boost anything and a vaccination doesn't make you immune.
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Posted: 10 January 2011 at 8:46pm |
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oh for those interested in the other side of the news this is quite a good video on it(came up on my facebook newsfeed so rather good timing), was done during Wakefields hearing so a bit out of date but still, gives you the parents side of it which the main media doesn't and as we know you can't trust the media so best to get the opposite side for balance.
http://www.viddler.com/explore/ziggy/videos/1/3581.346/
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Posted: 11 January 2011 at 11:37am |
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The Wakefield study was in 12 children.... just saying :-)
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Posted: 11 January 2011 at 12:09pm |
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That's the trouble I'm not interested and I don't care how you raise your children. Its none of my business. 
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Posted: 11 January 2011 at 1:39pm |
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i dont think vacc and autism are related.
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Posted: 11 January 2011 at 2:52pm |
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That's the trouble I'm not interested and I don't care how you raise your children. Its none of my business. |
I think you misunderstood my post. It is the otherside of the story for people who don't want to just eat up what the main stream media tells them. Plenty have a go at non vaxxers for believing the original study yet are quite happy themselves to now believe the media because it's sits better with their own decisions/opinions.
It's not about you being interested in how I parent, it's about being interested in making a balanced and rounded opinion once you know both sides of the story, I would suggest people do that with all topics not just vaxxing. But as vaxxing effects the health of your children you should pay some attention to it.
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Posted: 11 January 2011 at 7:30pm |
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Posted: 11 January 2011 at 10:14pm |
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...Hey Cuppatea,you're cuppatea again !
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Posted: 11 January 2011 at 10:21pm |
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Dammit, who is Cuppatea, i recognize those tickers but can't quite place it....
Oh and following with great interest.
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Posted: 11 January 2011 at 10:44pm |
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two_boys, I used to be cuppatea once a upon a time, figured I would change back as two_boys is not quite accurate anymore
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autism and vaccination link
