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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jaz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 July 2010 at 9:48am
If you read the court outcomes though 'shared care' is a bit of a wussy way of giving Dad's that have been absent the sense that they are taking an equal part in raising their child(ren). The courts award 'shared custody' then access for the Dad is something like two supervised visits per month each being about 3 hours. I think there was a lot of pressure a few years ago to automatically give Dad's shared custody, the Courts responded to this but have recognised that it is not always in the best interest of the child to have a 50/50 split between both parents. +-
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"Shared care" is just a really fluffy warm strokey term.

If the father sees the child for one day out of a whole month, the courts consider this "shared care".

So if the mothers play it smart, they can basically weasle through on one or two day visits with the father and that'd be considered "shared care". And when the courts see that she's offering "something" rather than nothing they go "awww, isn't that nice, she's meeting halfway" and accept the agreement.

Also, Lawyer for Child is a pretty awesome thing to have in those (well actually any) situations. They take the childs best interests into consideration.

BTW - Those comments aren't meant to take the pi$$ out of the courts, it's just my way of phrasing things which is probably totally un-PC but then thats just me.


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This thread interests me as my brothers ex is being shall we say a manipulative b*tch. Ok so that wasn't subtle at all.

He has a lawyer and is going through the process of trying to get their DS one and putting a parenting order in place. Different situation because she is trying to get money out of him that she shouldn't be getting while on the DPB from my understanding of their situation however you can't get the dpb while receiving private child support or you can be done for fraud


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You're correct Honeybuns, if you receive private child support, or any income at all while on the DPB, you must declare it and they will adjust your benefit accordingly.

The good news for your brother is that the Family Court seems to be quite well set up now to get a parenting agreement in place for the child and will always act in the best interests of the child. In most cases this means having regular contact with both parents and having both parents actively involved in making decisions pertaining to the child.

Somehow we got on the subject of Dad's having nothing to do with their kids for years, and whether they could or couldn't prevent the mother and child from moving away. Unfortunately these types have made it tough over the years for good Fathers to be actively involved in their childrens lifes if the mother doesn't want it, or is just being a b#tch.
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hi there

im new to this website and i thought i'd just tell you a little bit of what im going through with WINZ.
well as i do not know the father of my child and i hadn't had any name on my chids birth certificate they have cut my benefit and now i have to seek legal advice from a solicitor which in another word means i have to see the solicitor about my situation and its up to the solicitor to determine whether or not i know the father and then i have to get a written statement and then give it back WINZ.

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Hi,

Has anyone been in the situation of having a donor daddy and going on DPB? WINZ has got me to do a formula assessment application, and there is no father named on the form (or on the birth cert of course). The donation was done by personal arrangement (fertility clinic only did some initial tests). I've attached the contract signed by donor and me and some docs from the fertility clinic to the application. IRD has sent a standard letter back saying they can’t do a formula assessment and therefor my benefit will be reduced. They don’t appear to have taken any notice of the donor situation, certainly no mention of it. I called the human rights commission re this and how the clause applies to this type of situation and they were a little stumped as it was 'new territory" but seemed to think that someone in my position would have a legitimate grievance with having reduced benefit because of my situation. Has anyone been able to argue a case like this and were they successful?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jazzy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 February 2012 at 8:03am
I don't know much about it but a friend of mine refused to name the father & lost about $20 off her benefit each pay.

So you won't lose much.

The reason they want the fathers name is so he can pay child support but in your situation I am guessing he was not going to be financially responsible, so they will not recoup any money off him to support you & the child.

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Ehm but Guest_71638, you went to some considerable effort to become preggers, did you not also make financial plans for supporting yourself? Of course the donor should not provide assistance, that would be your responsibility having made the choice to go down that road. I'm not really sure that that is what the DPB is for though either!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Candkids Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2012 at 1:31pm
havnt read all the posts but if you come to a private childsupport agreement it can still be inforced by ird, thats what me and my ex did made things so much easier as if he doesnt pay then they chase it up no me so i dont get all the drama with it all

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jazzy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2012 at 3:25pm
Originally posted by Candkids Candkids wrote:

havnt read all the posts but if you come to a private childsupport agreement it can still be inforced by ird, thats what me and my ex did made things so much easier as if he doesnt pay then they chase it up no me so i dont get all the drama with it all


this is an old thread brought back by guest.... she had a sperm donor, & personally I think if you are doing that then you should be able to afford to support the child you planed. Don't think he will be paying child support because he is only a donor.

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