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    Posted: 12 May 2007 at 11:11am
Hey guys out there,

What do you do? How do you bond with your kids? I'm struggling at the moment to think up things.

I've realised I've been addicted to a particular game that I play lots on the computer. I've realised that I'm spending far too much time on the computer (or playstation, or TV or books) and not enough time with my kids. So I've gone cold turkey from that game, and I'm avoiding filling up that time with a different game/activity that takes time away from my kids. I wanna get more involved but I dont know how or what to do.

I've been watching Supernanny and I think she's got some good advice but I want to hear from guys. What's been happening with you and your kids? Is it even important to you?

How much do you think guys should get involved? what aspects do you think a guy should do and what part should females do? What does it mean to be a dad? I'm tired of trying to figure this stuff out on my own. I need help.

How much of feeling silly is part of being a dad?

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hi there i,m a single mum so in a way i,m a dad too i think anything you do be it playing with the kids ,taking them out ( so mum can get a breck) arts and crafts,bathing feeding or just sitting with them and talking is bonding and all offf being a dad or mum id feeling silly hope this helps
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I'l ask my Nat to reply this afternoon, okay?
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I asked DH and although he's not a dad yet, he's a very involved uncle (different to being a dad I know, but it's a start).

He thinks that with girls, its a matter of doing things that they enjoy, together - making something together, like a necklace or a craft or something. And being silly - DH is a very fun uncle and is always giving the girls cuddles. Also having special time where he'd take them somewhere, like to the movies or the zoo or just out for "coffee".

He reckons that as a boy, he loved it when his dad would help him build stuff - that he loved working alongside his dad, and that would make him more motivated to make stuff himself. Building simple little boats out of wood, even digging in the garden, building a hut (or even a hut indoors with chairs and sheets).

And my 2 cents worth - I know it's not the same cos I'm not a man, but I am a daughter who has a dad! I used to love it when dad would take us fishing or let us paint or do the garden with him, and I used to build stuff out of wood as well. So my point is that so-called "manly" stuff isn't only for boys, girls like it too - well I did.

Ian Grant from Parents Inc has written some good stuff about Dads, his parenting seminars are really good at pointing out the role of Dads as well.
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I will ask my DF what he plans to do but we both commented this morning that there were heaps of dads out and about at 10am walking there little todlers.....not a mum in sight so maybe thats a Dad thing.

As a daughter I second what Arohanui said....girls like to do the boy things too. But I think it would be kind of cool to see a Dad that is up with the latest Barbie trends (or whatever little girls are into now - I have a lot to learn too.)
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I'm in a slightly familiar situation in that I like to be able to have some 'me' time when I can do what I want rather than things that benefit the family as a whole. It's not that I'm selfish, I just believe it's important to take a little bit of time for yourself every now and then and do something only you enjoy. Otherwise I can imagine it would feel a little bit like your whole reason for being on this planet is to serve everyone else. Don't get me wrong - family duties are really important. But balance in life is the key in my opinion.

What age kids are we talking about here? Our first is due to turn up next month so personally I haven't really given much thought to anything beyond bathing, changing and the occasional feed from a bottle once he's been breastfeeding long enough to get the hang of that. Although the way I see it, the only thing dads can't do that mums can is breastfeed. Anything that sees you interacting with your kids has to be good for bonding. They'll remember every little thing you do for them. Not in the way that you or I would remember it, but they'll use it to formulate beliefs about you as a dad. If they can sense that you care enough about them to change them, bath them, feed them, talk to them, read to them etc then I am sure that will make a huge difference in the way they feel about you when they get older.

I don't know that I would get so hung up on distinguishing between what males and females should do. I would concentrate more on your respective strengths and weaknesses and choose tasks that are suited better to a particular individual. I like using my hands to soothe and massage etc, so bathing is probably going to be a 'dad' thing for us. It's also something we'll probably do at the end of the day when DW will be totally stuffed and need time out. Something like that is a good example of a task that is well suited to me as a dad. You might be able to think of a few things like that yourself.

"What does it mean to be a dad?". I wish I knew! The only thing I have managed to find as a unanimous point shared by all men is that part of being a dad is being constantly confused about your role as a dad! I see the role of fatherhood coming into it's own when the baby gets old enough to start getting excited by things that you do. Until that happens, I think that fatherhood is all about doing things that lighten the load off your partner's shoulders and strengthen the bond between you and child.

Just my thoughts anyway.

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Im another mum but DF spends as much free time as he has with Haleigh by doing things she likes.
Like drawing, rough play (our girl loves rough play with dad) building wiht blocks of wood off cuts (dfs a builder and brings some home for ehr to play with), cuddles and stories with dad. They can chase each other round the hosue for hours, which is great for me esp since Im pregnant with number 2 and don't have as much energy at the moment.

When I was younger I used to love going camping, hiking, fishing with dad, also he used to take us for walks along the beach, taught us how to build things with wood, dad even played tea parties with us and made us piklets jam and cream. My dad looked after us alot when we were kids as my mum worked 2 jobs so he kinda had to learn what we were into and do most things.

So maybe just find what your kids are into and work with that, kids love to just spend time with their dads no matter what you do.
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my hubby isnt joined up to the forums but he would prob tell you that he struggles with the role of a dad too. but i think all men do, there just isnt as much out there for dads as in info etc.... and the role of dads has changed so much, no longer are you just the sperm donor and the person who brings home the bacon and does the disciplining (sp?).
in our house hubbys role is the bath, and bed time. so he gets to read them stories and tuck them in most nights. this works for us tho cause he doenst see them during the day much and gets home right on dinner time. lately he has started involving the boys in his interests, they love gardening with him and are taking an interest in music now too.

sorry - i'm not a dad either but i certainly like what daddy2b said...good on you.
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Well, I know mums and females are responding, and I probably couldn't stop them if i tried ... so all viewpoints are welcome. Solo, Father, Daughter, male, female, whatever. Let me know what your response is to my first post. I specifically wanted dad's viewpoints cuz I'm also struggling with the male identity thing. Like... "What is my role? What does it mean to be a man/dad/etc..."

By the way my kids are 3yrs, 1.5yrs & 14 weeks. I'm looking for info on how to interact with my 3yr old. I think I'm fine up to about 2.5 years, then i start having no freaking idea what to do.
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My DW asked me to come and post a reply here. So here I am reading through all the posts and pritty much everything that everyone has said here is correct. The most important thing I have found it showing a genuine interest in what they are doing. When you come home from work smile and great them. Ask them how there day has been. I have done that since my little one was born. Obviously she could not tell me but it gave me time just to talk and bond.

Bath times are great for dad's to bond with there kids. Give the mom time to relax and it has also been proven that kids that have bath time with the dad seem to make friends easier. Don't know if that is true because our little one is just really friendly with every kid she meets.

As my daughter has grown older I allow her to help me with things like when I am building my Jet model I gave her a bit of off cut foam to draw on. Made her a litle plane and let her crash it jump on it, main thing was she was enjoying her time with Dad.

Start small give them a smile, give them a hug and listen to them. They always have something of great interest and importance to say to you. You just have to be willing to listen.

Now that I have done my "Dr Phil, impression" I am going to watch my MotoGP and gareenteed my little girl will come jump onto my lap as soon as she hears the bikes start up. ;-)

Enjoy your kids they grow up really fast.


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hi dude hows it going im a bloke and been a dad for 6 months and the thing is i feel that when a baby is born so is a dad so im only 6 months old . but hey big ups to you for noticing the fact that your computer is sucking you in.

what i feel my role is to teach i love the outdoors so i take my boy into the garden and let him eat plants (wife is not to pleased) he just sucks on them . i use my boy as a chance to do all those things that you may not get away with normally dropping to the floor and being a killer bear works at the moment even at the shopping malls people look but i think there thinking what a cool dad and im sure you are to

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Ahhhh, that Thunderwolves post cracks me up!  I would ask my DH to do ya a reply on here, but he's not here, so maybe hit him up next time we all bump into each-other?  Obviously, being a mum I don't know a bean about your identity as a Dad!  But I just wanted to say that Thunderwolves's post about embracing the bear within rings so true to me!  Sure, our girl is a lot younger than 3 years, but she just loves the rougher play that she gets from her daddy as opposed to me.  Dad's can always be better tickle-monsters, they can fling you about more and for longer, and IMHO, a caring daddy is a real-life hero in the eyes of a young daughter. 

Would claiming a job or 2 help?  Shower-time is Ella's spesh time with her dad, and she is sooooo nowhere near as impressed when I try to shower her!  Oh and FYI - (I really wish I had the reference for this, 'cause it was interesting), a study showed that hanging on the computer either on the net, 'chatting', or playing games  tends to create a very real sense of timelessness... it's frighteningly common for people to accidentally spend hours longer on the computer than they'd planned to.  It's far worse than TV, where the show ends and that reminds you you've been there for an hour.   So don't beat yourself up about the computer thing - we could probably all do with a check about it every now and then!  Good on ya for getting it sorted. 

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Originally posted by Chovynz Chovynz wrote:

By the way my kids are 3yrs, 1.5yrs & 14 weeks. I'm looking for info on how to interact with my 3yr old. I think I'm fine up to about 2.5 years, then i start having no freaking idea what to do.


3 years-old is getting to the age where they'll appreciate the finer things in life. Outings are always a good plan - take him/her (sorry I don't know if the 3 yo is a boy or a girl!) to duck ponds to feed the ducks, public bird sanctuaries (typically free entry), airports, helipads (yes the aviation nut in me is clearly evident), places where there might be new or interesting performers (daytime music events, magic shows or storytelling sessions as public libraries). Most if not all of these can be accessed for only the price of fuel to get there. Outings are good because they free up your partner a little.

My boss is a grandfather to a 3 or 4 year-old boy and he enjoys his time with him on weekends making things together. If you can... think back to stuff you did at that age that you used to enjoy. I know it can be hard to remember but you might be surprised what you think of.

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Originally posted by Daddy2b Daddy2b wrote:

3 years-old is getting to the age where they'll appreciate the finer things in life. Outings are always a good plan - take him/her (sorry I don't know if the 3 yo is a boy or a girl!)...blahblahblah

If you can... think back to stuff you did at that age that you used to enjoy. I know it can be hard to remember but you might be surprised what you think of.

Richard


All girls. All the stuff you've said so far is good.

I think that's part of my problem. I can hardly remember before 7. I have snippents here and there but my Dad had the same problems. Truckie and computers. So when he was away he wasn't here and when he was here he went "away".

That's not really being fair to him. I respect my Dad heaps, and I love him lots. He provided for our family, he's still married to his first wife (my mum) and he was there sometimes, just not enough.

I think I'm gonna try some of those things people have mentioned up there. I liked the making...well, all of the ideas really.
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My boy is two and a half and his dad is another computer addict. i have commented on it recently and he has been spending more time with the kids. He lets Jake help with chores a lot - moving things with the wheelbarrow, diggin holes, and just taking him places. he tries to get a bit of one-on-one time with them both. he works nights and is gone at three, often sleeping until 12 so he too doesn't have a lot of time with our boys.
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sorry - big edit there...

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Wasnt it the best place in the world, sitting on Dads shoulders? Or being carried "asleep" to bed. i remember that.
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