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    Posted: 25 July 2006 at 8:52am
Alrighty ladies, this has been playing on my mind all week and I need a second (third and fourth) opinion...

Quinn has been a daycare kid for a while, he has always loved it but now he has moved into the big kids room. That was a few weeks ago and every time I drop him off we go thru the lip wobble routine, this is not what bothers me tho. What gets to me is this: in the little kids room they'd whisk him off saying things like "come on Quinn, lets check out the sand pit!" and distract him while I left but now in the bigger kids room they just leave him. And by leave him I mean they say and do absolutely nothing, and leave me to pry him off my leg and leave while he is whimpering. I feel that they should be trying to help him ease into it... Am I expecting to much? I have mentioned it briefly to them but apparently "I have to realise that there are more children in the toddler room than the baby room so not as much time to focus on each child"... am I wrong in assuming that if they can't pull it together to be nice to him IN FRONT of me than perhaps this is not the place for us? I am not at uni anymore, am taking this semester off for newbie baby so it is really easy for me to pull him out and consider other options?

Am I being a preggy-over-reacting-ball-of-hormones or am I right in thinking this is not cool?
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no i dont think your being a preggy-over-reacting-ball-of-hormones as you put it!!!! i'd feel the same. its nice to know that when you take your children to daycare etc... they are happy settled and looked after. i'd be annoyed too. just becasue quinn is in the bigger room doesnt mean he doesnt have the same needs as when he was in the other! it hasnt been long and its a big thing for him
i havent had the same problems, my girl loves her preschool, they are all wonderful and caring there, but if it was me, maybe i would be looking at other options, or discussing how i felt with the staff.
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Jake was in the toddler area in our daycare, and did the same things as Quinn. The daycare staff were lovely and would take him off me and distract him while I snuck away. I'd definitely consider opther options Anna.
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I have heard things at my uni about "the next creche up" where the kids are left a lot more to fend for themselves. This scares me a bit as their time in the nursery creche has been pretty structured.

So while you do have to be aware that he is moving into an environment where they have to be a bit more independent, I also think the staff should ease the transition as much as possible. Maybe make some time to sit down and talk to the creche manager to see if you can come up with a plan where at the very least they try to get Quinn to join in with play that is already going on. I know I'd expect the same when Han moves up to the next creche.

If that doesn't work then I would consider other options. Maybe let the manager know how the staff just dismissed your concerns too. They should be receptive to that kind of stuff! (Especially if it makes their job easier too.)
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Our daycare is wonderful with transitioning the kids from the under-2 section to the "senior school" (sounds very grown up!) I definately think that they should pay more attention to your concerns - not having enough time is a load of bull - it takes more time to calm down a destructive toddler who has been like that all day cos they got really upset when mummy left, than it does to quietly distract them...

although we have always tried to be honest and let our kids develop trust in us by ensuring that we do not sneak away but instead give a kiss and cuddle and hand them to a member of staff for cuddles - so they can wave as we leave.. that was how it has been since they were tiny so that even as they went though the "separation anxiety" stage at 9/10 months old, the same thing happened all the time and they developed trust in knowing that mummy/daddy would return just the same as they always do.

Our daycare also encourages us to set boundaries and routines with our children so that they have the same thing each morning.. With paris i do 1 puzzle with her each morning (she always picks the same one) then its a kiss and a cuddle and she waves bye bye out the window as i cross the parking lot. it took a while but now she will put the last piece in the puzzle and say "you can go now mummy, stand up and give me kisses" and 9 times out of 10 she's fine.

Try this out if you want and tell them what you are doing, suggesting maybe it may work with some other kids... find an activity to do each morning make it something with a clear end point such as a book or puzzle, then say bye bye give hugs and hand to a member of staff for cuddles - or guidehim towards a group activity... and well - if they don't then support you in your efforts to help him get used to the new environment then i would be talking with the managment or considering alternatives.

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Yeah got to agree, I would be taken kobe out in fact I did pretty much for that reason. He wasnt upset or anything but I could walk in there pick him up and leave and no one would say anything to me even when he would wave good bye no one acknowledged and it broke my heart. I didnt have any idea what he did during the day and if he had a good day or anyhing so I moved him and am so glad I did. this place I can hardly get away from cos they keep talking and love it when i take addy in, all the kids gather round to see her and one of the teachers will sit with her and the kids while I get kobe sorted. If in doubt I would follow your guy instinct
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same here james daycare are wonderful but if they did that too my son or newphew they would be out of there before there heads could spin
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Harry went through an unsettled stage at two. Very trumatic dropping him every day but the teachers understood and helped us each day when we had to leave. Harry has been in creche since 3 mths so we were confused as to why he got so unset but we were explained that this can be quite normal with kids. He is now fine but we could not have done it without the teachers help.
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I'm not sure about your daycares, I'm pretty sure that iot is a legal requirement from the Ministry however, that your child receives an "observation" portfolio thing. Russel Street gave me Jakes when we left and often sent it home for me to see. It has examples of his "work", pictures of him and just descriptions of what he's learning and doing through the day. It was the neatest thing to read. If you haven't seen it, ask your daycare staff about it.
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We have that for both of the girls - it's wonderful, and everyo once and a while we bring it home and i will fill in a page about what has been happening at home and the special things that have happened - and add pics of our own.
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Thanks for all the advice ladies!

I know they look after him well, everytime I go to pick him up he is happy and shows me what he has been doing all day. It is just the dropping off thng that gets to me. And as daycare time is only time out for me it is easy to find somewhere else more suitable.

He does have a folder, and it is fantastic but then again, I haven't had it since he started in the big kids room.

Mostly I think I am probably overreacting, but my plan is to drop him off this morning and see how it goes. I will go with my gut and if it happens again today then it will be his last day.

Wish me luck!!
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good luck anna hope it went well
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Hope it gets sorted Anna!

With the profile books, our creche has them in clear files out for the kids to look at. It is sooooo cool! Every time I go in there I find kids pulling them out and pointing at the pictures.
Hannah's one is hilarious... lots of eating paint
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I had a look thru his book yesterday, it is so cute! Lots of dancing with his 'girlfriend' Monique! But nothing from him in the big kids room...

Yesterday I dropped him off, it tears out my heart because he is so excited to get to daycare but then cries when he finds out he has to go to the toddler room not the baby room. They said Hi Quinn but then left us to our own devices. We sat down and did a puzzle like Janine suggested but then after sitting there for 15 minutes I got up to leave, he clung to my knees and cried . We had a bit of a cuddle but then when I tried to pry him off the (*&^%$!!) lady just watched, smiling.   I got a bit narky and asked thru gritted teeth if she could help me. I really wanted to go and say something to the boss lady but by that time had worked myself into a tizzy (damn hormones) so left while having a mini blubber!!

Am gonna phone today and tell them he is not coming back. I am sure it is not their fault, he is a particularly sooky wee guy but I don't feel that they are helping much and I don't see the point in upseting him if he doesn't need to be there?!

So it is back to full time sahm-ing for me... (gah, i am knackered at the thought of it) but feel so much happier!! Thanks everyone!!
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Research other child care options???
Have you thought about the whole barnardos thing where they go to the carers home? Maybe that environment would suit him better? You could even go in with another family (to make it cheaper and ensure he is socialising with other kids)?
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I would say something to the boss or one of the staff there about it.As when you drop your kid off it should be blunt.Kiss, cuddle "Mummy is going now and will pick up later" If he is peforming then one of the staff should take Quinn off you and go and read a book, do a puzzle etc so you can get out the door without him holding onto your leg.

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How sucky!! I would say why he wasn't coming back to the daycare too. Good on you for doing what you feel is right for Quinn but don't forget you too!! As Nikki suggested maybe look at other childcare options. PORSE Network is great too. Hugs!!

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Thank you!! I am generally such a believer of gut feelings so I am glad I went with this one. We went to pick up his gear today and had one last visit with my fav ladies from the baby room and I am glad we are not going back there cause his behaviour was so "off" (if that makes sense!)...

Back to being the full time stay at home mum, how do people survive without their time out?!
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Survive???? LOL, I have turned in to a cracked loon in the year I have been a sahm, muaaaahahahaha (crazy laughter)

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By making sure their children have several naps during the day! I had Jake in daycare once a week and it was wonderful! Now I don't, but we go to playcentre twice a week which means i at least get uot of the houe. And next week I hvae my six week of teaching practice starting.
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