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I think in many ways you are very lucky you live in gore and it may help you achieve a dream faster than say in auckland!!!

Banks have cracked down BIG time....no idea about welcome home loan but can let you know what I have seen clients do -

get parttime job or fulltime job once bubs is say 6 months old and work and SAVE!!!! show this to the bank say 6-12 months later - DO NOT touch the deposit.

Then get loan and buy house and cut down on your hours etc - so long as the mortgage is able to be met from one wage you will be ok. the 2 year sacrifice to be in your own home will be worth it

another way is to get your parents to guarantee a loan - you will put their home and assets at risk tho so make sure you do crack down and meet all your bills or you will make them lose what they worked for. In a few years (or you set a time frame) you either save enough to repay them OR you borrow to repay them by topping up your mortgage - and then you can truly say the house is ALL yours (and the banks! LOL) If your parents have a family trust the trust could guarantee a loan - still puts the trust assets at risk if you dont pay bills!!!

alll the best - i think you have a good attitude to this and hope you succeed!
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Kelly I feel your pain. It sucks that LL in NZ just don't go for the long term thing. We've been moved out of all of our rentals over the years bar 2. The rest either they sold or moved back into or had a family member move into.

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I dont understand all the talk of extra responsibilities when owning your own home? Down here we have council rates and enviroment rates not land lease or water rates or anything extra that isnt included in the council rates already. When josh pulls off wallpaper or damages a wall or stains the carpet again it doesnt matter because its my house i can fix all that when the money is there or we renovate that area. I guess we are pretty lucky as we have friends in most trades so if something breaks it can be fixed on the cheap and dp will give anything a go first anyway but we included savings in our budget so there is always emergency money on hand

Shadowfeet our place was cheaper than yours i think :) for us to rent on the north side a 3bd place with a double garage (nessesity for DP) it was $200+ our mortgage is only $340 a fortnight add rates and home insurance and its around $200 a week for our own house which gives us an asset in the end.

I signed josh up for kiwisaver as was told he doesnt have to contribute until he is 18 so paper runs wont be affected plus he gets a free $1000 which wont be offered forever. Eventually there will be some form of scheme that will be compulsary so might as well get in while there is free money to be gained and no high interest account is going to have your investment be matched by your employer as well as a goverment contribution.

As Bobbie said you can chose high risk (for younger people who can afford for their accounts to move up and down because its longer until they need it for retirement or low risk generally for those not far off retirement.

and josh wants me to add honk honk! or at least thats what he keeps saying to me
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honk honk back to Josh !

Tell him I say "beep beep !"


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Man I wish we could get a 3 bed house for $340 a fortnight. Our mortgage is $514 a week, yep a week.

I think getting your own house is a great idea, just make sure you seek financial advisement, ask around for a good advisor and I would also advise borrowing less than they say you can borrow.

Kiwibank have a few good home loan calculators which might help you out and most mortgage brokers and banks will give you free advise.

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Hehe didn't think I'd caused quite a stir!

Of course we're all entitled to our own opinions and to seek advice (which is the most sensible thing to do).

I would rather play the sharemarket myself than let some big-wigs use my money to play it. My father and his share group are doing really well and would rather take their advice, and their advisors advice than someone elses (no offence to anyone ).

LF - I know what you mean about not wanting to contribute! DH has a compulsory army super of over $100 a fortnight (7% of his income) which sucks big time.

Wrx - I think people are probably thinking more of what if your oven craps out or somehing - if you're renting the landlord has to fix it, whereas if you own, you have to come up with the cash to. Some people don't have the flexibility. (Oh and very jealous of your mortgage, wow that's cheap!)

Bubie - I would just try to live off what it would cost for a mortgage and save the rest. At least then you know you can do it.
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I think in Southland it must be slightly different to everywhere else with the extra costs hehehe

Here, to rent a 3 bed house in a decent area, nothing flash, maybe a single or double darage, you're looking around $350+ a week. To buy, you're looking probably around $280k, which means the mortgage would probably be around $450 a week (based on 30 year term, 7.2% interest rate), plus rates of approx $35 a week, plus insurance (dunno what that is, say $40 a month) $10 a week....that's just under $500 a week to buy a pretty standard home. So that's the extras for you!! We pay pretty close to that each week for a 2 1/2 bdrm house on a little section, but we bought when prices were high and banks were giving money away LOL
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The difference is in Invers its cheaper to buy a house - our house is $150000 so after our deposit our mortgage is only small (over a long period until i go back to work so its very affordable now)

Gore is cheaper again so if they find the right house for what they can afford its definitely a better option than renting because in the end its a good asset to have. You definitely have to put together a realistic budget and look for something within your means but its much more affordable down here than in Auck or chch which is where some of the advice is coming from - not that its a bad thing just pointing out its a little different down this way.

I just think it is worth looking into through a mortgage broker or the welcome home loans people and see what they say first if they say not right now then they will put you on the right track to getting a house i know we were told by 1 bank to put the mortgage equvialent into an account for 6 mths they would look at it again (this was because we had been staying at my parents and had no recent evidence of making reqular payments) At least if you try you know where you stand and what you need to do next.
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Originally posted by emz emz wrote:

I would rather play the sharemarket myself than let some big-wigs use my money to play it. My father and his share group are doing really well and would rather take their advice, and their advisors advice than someone elses (no offence to anyone ).


I think that is very sensible, always take the advice of people you trust.
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Where I live (Howick ) a 3 bedroom to rent is over $400 a week , to buy its usually from $400 ,000 .

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emz - just think of the $$ when DH leaves. That's what I do
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Originally posted by caitlynsmygirl caitlynsmygirl wrote:

Where I live (Howick ) a 3 bedroom to rent is over $400 a week , to buy its usually from $400 ,000 .

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WOW!! We rented a 3 bed for $360, and brought a 3 bed for early/mid $300k That is in the Hutt (Wellington). So, what I've heard about Auckland housing is clearly true.
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Wow !!, So feel sorry for those having to pay 400 a week on rent!! thats crazy!! Our house in Invers was 165000 3 bedrooms, totally renevated and with insurances (home, contents & life) added in our mortage (with having had no deposit )is still only 270 per week so totally do-able in southland even on one income. But totally agree that there can be extra costs with things that would usually be covererd by the landlord.

Bubie , we went through Roost mortage brokers, think they're based in Dunedin but you can do it all over the phone, and the guy was awesome... just incase you were thinking of looking into it.
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My advice: Start looking around and see what house prices are in your area as well as areas you would like to live. Then go to the online calculators and see what the payments on that will be.

Then go to the ASB one and you put what you are spending on rent now and how big a mortgage you will get on on the amount you already just spending on rent.

Now you need a deposit. So what ever the difference in the two amounts are (rent and mortage payment you worked out) and put that in a deposit account. Then make sure all your bills get paid on time, That you dont have any other debts (cars paid off and HP's ect). Then put everything else you can away as well and then start speaking to banks and mortgage brokers ect and check the market out.



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Originally posted by SMoody SMoody wrote:

My advice: Start looking around and see what house prices are in your area as well as areas you would like to live. Then go to the online calculators and see what the payments on that will be.

Then go to the ASB one and you put what you are spending on rent now and how big a mortgage you will get on on the amount you already just spending on rent.

Now you need a deposit. So what ever the difference in the two amounts are (rent and mortage payment you worked out) and put that in a deposit account. Then make sure all your bills get paid on time, That you dont have any other debts (cars paid off and HP's ect). Then put everything else you can away as well and then start speaking to banks and mortgage brokers ect and check the market out.



Then close the browser window, give up and pour yourself a stiff drink

haha joking - it's good advice actually.

We pay $450 in rent for a small 3 bedroom unit. I would guess it would cost about $450k + to buy given its proximity to Takapuna.

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Originally posted by WRXandJosh WRXandJosh wrote:

Gore is cheaper again so if they find the right house for what they can afford its definitely a better option than renting because in the end its a good asset to have. You definitely have to put together a realistic budget and look for something within your means but its much more affordable down here than in Auck or chch which is where some of the advice is coming from - not that its a bad thing just pointing out its a little different down this way.


Actually I think you'll find Gore isn't... Its getting more like Windsor in a way, unless you go over east gore, but even there the houses are getting more expensive.

Meh, I say go for it. Give it a go at least. The worst the banks will say is no!
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Wow thank you so much guys, really really good advice thank you so much
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