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Emma, I would have to say that it is very important, Braedon was a bottom shuffler and did not crawl at all, he walked at 21 months, he is now 4 and a very cautious boy, it took him along time to walk down stairs he would sit on his bum and go down that way , his speech has been delayed also and there are quite a few things he would never attempt but is getting better we have just had a referral to special ed at my insistance through our plunket nurse to have him assessed he is not thick but infact quite bright there is lots of things he is good at he is very quick on the computer but for my own peace of mind I would like him looked at, you won't be able to force them to crawl but try to encourage it for left/right brain developement and co-ordination.
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My MIL said pretty much what has already been mentioned: crawling helps with the left-right connections in the brain (because you alternate sides as you crawl eg left leg then right hand) which has flow-on effects on spatial awareness and coordination, as well as academic learning such as reading. She said that one of the first things she asks when children come to her for help is "Did they/you crawl?", and that often it is the children with learning difficulties that didn't crawl.

MIL suggested making a game of it. Get everyone (Willie too!) down on their hands and knees and crawl around making noises... do "horsie" rides on Mummy and Daddy's backs, then have her/them take a teddy for a ride on theirs (when they are a little older)... she said it doesn't matter if they still bum shuffle, as long as they crawl too.
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well i was a bum shuffler from around 6 or 7 months and was walking at 10 months....dont think i fit any of the theorys of not crawling?
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emma i never crawled i had hip deplacser and i bottom shuffler i was dignosied with a lreaning dissaplitiy when i was 14 .(i cant remeber the name) which means that my left and right side of my brain dont work together well. my teacher recnocks it had something to do with me not crawling, hence why i was sooo worried about james not crawling. but after about 2 months of bottom huffing he started crawling so the gremlins might to
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Bombshell, did you crawl during play at a later stage? Because that would have created the connections, without crawling being your main form of mobility.
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The jury is still out on whether or not it matters. The current thinking seems to be that as long as they are progressing, any mode of "transport" is ok as long as they eventually learn crawling through games and play. The crawling cross-patterning is important but many believe you can make it up later by playing crawling games etc.

You told me not to worry about Elle not crawling so here's me returning the favour!

I'd say just be happy that she can move herself around! Try having an 11.5 month old that can't move anywhere independently! Grr :(

Well done little Sienna :)

(eta the "as long as" part at the start)

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Originally posted by daikini daikini wrote:

Bombshell, did you crawl during play at a later stage? Because that would have created the connections, without crawling being your main form of mobility.


nope apparently i got up and walked....was told this by mum, and grandma and aunty for years so i dont doubt it - and i have mega high IQ, photographic memory etc....so maybe i slipped under the radar???
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I haven't read the rest of the replies, but I was a bum-shuffler, and I'm fine!! Was always an avid reader and top in school and stuff. Spoke alot since I was a toddler too...
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One of the Mum's at Playcentre was a Paediatrician and said there was no problem with bottom shuffling. They tend to walk a little later because they can see everthing they need to when shuffling so no need to stand and walk.

I asked her about learning difficulties but she said people claimed crawling was a necessary stage for correct brain development but no studies had identified a link between bottom shuffling and learning difficulties.
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i feel a little better about my about to be bum shuffler, there is so much pressure on parents that I was feeling like I had done something wrong, was nice to read that there have been no offical studies that have identifed a link so there is hope for her yet x


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DD is a bum shuffler too. She has never crawled, she always screamed when on her stomach - hated it. She has been walking since 1 year and 3 days - so no delay there. Her paed (she has serious and numerous food and environmental allergies which is why we think she never wanted to be on her tummy, it was sore) has told me we should encourage crawling but, seriously, you can't force a child to crawl - especially when they can already walk! She does mammoth walking sessions too, has very good endurance, so I don't see her crawling any time soon. It's a difficult one, isn't it .
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My girl is a bum shuffler (well more of a scooter) and I think all the stuff about needing to crawl is a load of rubbish! She is so ahead in so many other ways like talking and also with her finer motor movements. Funnily enough she actually started to crawl after walking (at 19 months), so cute.

I think bum shuffling in quite clever, as they can still carry stuff around with them.
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Ok, so thought I'd check back in on this one, since I got a message saying new people have posted on here. Haven't been back here really in years. I posted on the 1st Page about Paris back then...

She is now nearly 9, rides a bike awesomely, very co-ordinated now, is super duper active, has no learning problems and reads at an 11.5 yr old level....

.....so no, as long as you foster all the important stuff and catch up by doing those games and rolling etc so that they eventualy learn the things they need to, then being a bum shuffler does completely mean that all the stuff discussed above will happen.

Each child is different and gets about their own way, it's important for the two sides to learn to work together and cross over etc, but all other aspects of development are just as important.. one single factor does not completely determine the outcome.

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My Miss4, was a "monkey crawl / bum shuffler"

It used to really annoy me how people would say, she is not going to bright or blah blah from that whole left/right brain thing.

Well she is bright / doing really well for her age, both with learning / writing / rides bike with no training wheels swings on monkey bars / climbs etc

So dont spend a minute longer worring about it. My friends daughter was the perfect crawler she is now 6, she writes most her numbers and letters back to front (like mirrorer) cant swing on the monkey ladder or ride a bike with no trainer wheels.

Its got nothing to do with whether they crawl/bum shuffle, I think its their personality and genes on how confident/good they are with activites and school work

slight vent but my 2c worth. lol
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My 14 month daughter is a bum shuffler I was so worried because Id heard about the whole left/right side od the brain thing that I called my plunket nurse who got someone to come assess her and see. The wonderful lady said that its not true at all that crawling helps with their development more than bum shuffling. And that she is doing so well in other ways like she has quite a few words under her belt etc and that I have no reason to be concerned. Was such a relief because I kinda felt like I had failed Caitlyn in some way by her not crawling.
If you are concerned call plunket, I found them very helpful.
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I'm and ECE teacher, and I've worked with under 2s and had bum shufflers. I wouldn't worry about it, some kids just find it a better way to get around. As someone else mentioned, they do often learn to walk later because they can already look up easily from sitting.

I had a hunt through my notes for you, can't see any evidence that it's unhelpful for children. The important thing to remember is that there's no one way children learn something. As long as you are talking to your child and playing with them (including playing with their hands/feet/arms/legs) they are going to make those connections, and you're doing it right!
      
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an interesting observation, im in ECE and 2 and a half years ago we took on the free movement philosophy, so babies never get sat up until they can do it themselves

we have not had one bum shuffler since then, they pretty much all roll to tummy, then crawl, then sitting comes next, then walking

so if you are worried about it dont sit them up and give them a chance to bum shuffle. However of the bum shufflers ive had in the past none of them seem disadvantaged when they get older
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