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    Posted: 14 December 2009 at 1:08pm
I want to put out a post for those of us Mums who, for whatever reason, have decided to formula feed their babies.

I have just come away from the Doctor's where yet another health professional has let me know through offhand comments just how bad a mum I am for formula feeding my baby.

Why do health professionals have to make it so hard? Isn't being a Mum hard enough already?

I know and believe that breast feeding is great for babies. I did it for 8 weeks and then circumstances meant I gave it up. It was sad, and I get guilty days about it but I also know why I did it and how much happier both me and my baby are now.

Occasionally me and the other formula-feeding mums from my ante-natal class admit to each other what a godsend it has been. It seems ridiculous that we have to have this conversation secretly. One of us got bad mastitis, one had a very colicky baby who wouldn't breastfeed and I got postnatal depression that stopped me sleeping for days and diminished my milk supply.

In hospital my ravenous 10.2lb newborn son was crying all night because my milk hadn't come in. The midwife evidently was not allowed to offer me formula but told me that if i insisted on it, and signed a form she could give him a little. 5 mils later we were all happy and sleeping. Although I was made to feel as though I'd just given my baby illegal drugs.

Where do they teach health professionals to be so good at making mums feel guilty? I know new Mums who had a desperately hard time establishing breastfeeding, whose agony was made 10 times worse by midwives who made them feel that they didn't love their babies if they gave them formula.

As you can tell this all makes me furious.

Maybe the belief is that in another time and place formula feeding would not have been an option, so we should all be able to breastfeed our babies now. But that's a stupid argument because in another time and place lots more babies would have died - some wouldn't have made it in to the world at all. We are lucky to have the choices we have these days to make life better for our babies and ourselves. I agree that we should be informed and helped with breastfeeding, just as we are about vaccinating - another tough decision for mums. But once we've made our decisions can't we all just be nice to each other and respect each other's choices?

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I COMPLETELY agree. I am with you 100% here here

Also- in the 'old days' your sister or mother or cousin or next door neighbour wouldve done it instead- been a wet nurse. Not being able to BF for whatever reason is no new concept.

I call them Lactivists... very insensitive bunch they can be (understatment).

Not like we dont want to do whats best for everyone.... esp baby.



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the only person who can make you feel guilty for your parenting choices is YOU!

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Hugs.

I recently switched to FF my 4 month old and can't get over how frowned upon it is etc.

The funny thing is, since we made the switch we have both been so much happier. I never imagined doing anything but breastfeeding, but circumstances change, and I don't think people should be judged.

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Lactivists... I like it! The weird thing is when my stepmother had her kids by cesarian that told her that she absolutely could not breast feed and made her use formula! Amazing how trends change. One extreme to the other, hopefully the next trend will be a happy medium.


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I totally agree. I went through terrible grief went BFing didn't go well for us. We all want to do the best thing for our bubbas.

Laughs as my almost 5 month old DD (weighing 8.3kg) rolls happily around on the floor!
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My BFF had to put her formula in a separate fridge to expressed breast milk when she recently gave birth at Auckland Hospital. The fridge for the formula was in a padlocked area, not easily accessable. She was made to feel that her formula could not possibly go along side the breast milk. How ridiculous!
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Originally posted by Lulu Lulu wrote:

My BFF had to put her formula in a separate fridge to expressed breast milk when she recently gave birth at Auckland Hospital. The fridge for the formula was in a padlocked area, not easily accessable. She was made to feel that her formula could not possibly go along side the breast milk. How ridiculous!


well thats cause it cant! imagine if they got mixed up. makes sense to me to lock it up - some people will steal anything!

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It's silly how people act over FF. My mum couldn't BF me (I'm 19) as she didn't have enough milk and she ran out by 12weeks, so she had to FF me, even then she was made to feel bad although she sorta couldn't help it!! Part of the problem she thinks is because she had to see La Leche and they made her breastfeed even though she got mastitis which she said was horribly painful!

The lady who took my antenatal said because NZ is part of the world health org. they're not allowed to promote formula feeding or even talk about it! Which she thought was silly as sometimes you simply can't BF.

You shouldn't be made to feel bad about FF.
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Originally posted by Bizzy Bizzy wrote:

the only person who can make you feel guilty for your parenting choices is YOU!


hmmm- I guess you havent had the same experience.

I agree about it being a grieving process- I still get teary about it, as you feel like youve failed as a mother- well I did. and no matter how you try and rationalise it- its an irrational reaction.... your instinct say- BF BF BF and you want to be able to.... but its not always possible. And there should be support for those people, just as there is support for those who can BF. A LOT of support for those who can. And its a ridiculous argument to say "Everyone can BF" because its actually completely untrue.

Sorry- not to sound agressive at all... I get quite passionate about this topic.

I nearly had post traumatic stress over this.
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My mum couldn't breastfeeed and we turned out alright. Lots of kids who are breastfeed turn out to be little sh*ts. So really, there is more to how a child turns out than just milk.

People should def be more sensitive about it and it should be discussed and information made available, I think it is ridiculous and unfair.

Also think that Bizzys comment about noone can make you feel guilty...I don't know that is fair...if people are gonna make negative comments and make you feel bad then I would imagine it would be very hard not to feel bad about yourself. And the truth is that some people out there do actually enjoy saying things to make others feel bad....sad but true.



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I really feel for you ladies that have had negative reactions to FF, i have ended up FF all of my kids for different reasons, going back to full time work was one, my milk never came in and weight gain issues with my last baby, but i have never had anything bad said nor do i get the looks, or maybe i did and i just really didn't care.

All my kids are happy and very healthy, even more so than some fully BF kids, and breast is defanately not best if its going to do your head in and lead to PND or the like (which very nearly happened to me)

I'm quite passionate about this as well and don't think others should judge if we FF or BF.


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Originally posted by Bizzy Bizzy wrote:

the only person who can make you feel guilty for your parenting choices is YOU!


Fully agree. I FF both my boys from birth. Never once have I felt guilty/ashamed etc about my choice. Maybe that because I am 100% confident in my choice so am oblivious to comments and looks.

It works for me and my baby anad we are all happy about that. My MW supported me and hospital was fine about it. Both times I have never signed anything.

Weird that the formula was made up and in another fridge. I just pressed the bell and mine was brought to me....would love it if I could still get that
       
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Hehe me too Peanut - I loved that part of it all (so much better than pushing a bell for someone to latch a screaming baby onto your boob for it not to work over and over again!)

I think what Bizzy's saying (correct me if I'm wrong Bizzy, I'm sure you will if you see fit ) is that people can't MAKE you feel bad, even if you do feel bad from the comments they make.

I used to be a lot more sensitive about this topic because I couldn't (and wouldn't, due to breast issues) BF my first born. Because I'd never thought of the possibility of FF it was quite a shock to me that I had to and I had no idea how to do anything (even express first of all until we chose formula). I have had quite a few hurtful comments by older people but I also think if you're already sensitive to it, you pick up on it more (works for people that are so pro BF too - they seem to find all the negative comments easily IYKWIM).

This time, I made the choice (well it was made for me, I'd had breast surgery) not to BF and while its been awkward sometimes telling people (you know the people that want to know all the gritty details about how feeding's going, if your nipples hurt etc) that I can't BF, its mostly been fine. I think the big part was my family and mw were 100% behind me and all thought it was the best decision for both me and baby in our circumstances.

So I definitely think its how you personally go into it all, its taken me a while to deal with not being able to BF but now I'm quite happy with our decision and stand by it regardless of what people say.
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Was posting at the same time Jess, so wrote pretty much what you said
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I formula fed Caden from 4 weeks old and no one made me feel guilty about it, my Dr never did, and my MW was with me on the decision as it was the right one for me and Caden.
I didnt feel guilty about it, as I could see how much happier he was and cos he was happy I was happy!
I wasnt going to let anyone make me feel bad for FF my son, I did what was right for him and i have no regrets.

ETA- I am like Peanut, 100% confident with my decision to FF Caden, and was oblivious to any looks/comments




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Originally posted by Bizzy Bizzy wrote:

the only person who can make you feel guilty for your parenting choices is YOU!


Toally agreed.

I do work in this field and I know without a doubt that any health care professional telling you you are a bad mother for your choice re formula would be severly discplined or sacked, so if thats what they said, you should complain.

The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P
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Kat, I called then breastfeeding nazis!

I don't think anyone actually says "you are a bad mother for formula feeding", least of all health professionals, but it comes through. I think that those of us who really wanted to BF and couldn't for whatever reason, and had to FF are the ones who are most sensitive to looks, comments etc from people.

I really wanted to BF and had a whole lot of problems, H had to have formula top ups from day 2 on paed's advice as his blood sugars were dropping rapidly. I felt horrible and guilty, and spent the first 6 weeks in tears and in pain (I had thrush on my nipples and didn't know, I thought I just had cracked nipples and had to persevere). Complete strangers would look me up and down at the supermarket as I was choosing formula, and tell me that I "mustn't give him the bottle". Nurses and drs would ask if H was exclusively BF, and when I said no, there'd be a pause, a look and then "oh. why?"

So yeah, I felt incredibly guilty and like people thought I wasn't doing what was best for my baby.

The thing that gets me is that people think they have a right to pass judgement without even knowing the person or their particular situation. Every mother only wants what is best for her baby, and people, esp health professionals, friends and family could be less judgemental and more supportive.

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Originally posted by KitKat KitKat wrote:

I call them Lactivists...


Originally posted by SpecialK SpecialK wrote:

Kat, I called then breastfeeding nazis!



surely these type of comments contribute to the alienation and division that so many find...

and is a contradiction of this comment:

Originally posted by SpecialK SpecialK wrote:

The thing that gets me is that people think they have a right to pass judgement without even knowing the person or their particular situation. Every mother only wants what is best for her baby, and people, esp health professionals, friends and family could be less judgemental and more supportive.

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Originally posted by Bizzy Bizzy wrote:

the only person who can make you feel guilty for your parenting choices is YOU!


I totally and grudgingly agree.....but wouldnt it be nice if we could blame other people!!!!!
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