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I have only just moved on from number one teats to number two teats... Chloe can't handle fast milk flow very well. Plus the Plunket Nurse told me that it's more like breastfeeding if they have to work at it a bit anyway, so I was using number one teats while I was breastfeeding and bottlefeeding at the same time.


Arohanui, if you give half and half EBM and formula, I definitely don't think you have anything to feel guilty about, that's only like 1 whole bottle of formula in the day that you are working. And he will still be getting all the good stuff from the breast milk. Breast IS best, but you aren't planning on taking that away from him, so I don't think you should feel guilty in the least. But I know I felt guilty too when I started on formula, they really push the breastmilk thing too far sometimes.
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Soory KA, I use number 2 teats with Advent bottles and 3-6 months with my Tommee Tippee bottles. I use both kinds of bottles aswell as b/f.

I went to Goats milk as I had heard that it can reduce the excema flare ups and over half of my coffee group are using it too!
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tiff thanks:) janey i only changed a week ago:) he was rumbling before that but not much.. nurse supposed to be here so will ask her too..

peachy thats cool:) just wondered.... goats milk no good for Ethan cause of his allergy but i remember now we covered that Lauren is allergic to the apples isnt she. did you get put on probiotics after your c section? i know it helps less children have allergies and is to give them the good bacteria they miss in a c-section.. i think its useful for reflux etc(but i just wondered if anyone has been offered it besides those with allergies)..the allergy doc i go to has just bought out a new book on excema...seems really good.. (Rodney Ford)

Janey- i agree- I'm not starting a debate here but my son and I are happier now we have switched and for me that is the most important thing:)
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When it comes to teats especially if you are using bottles as well as still breastfeeding, it can be a good idea to get ones that are similar to your flow. for example if you have a really fast let down that will be what your baby is used to, so even though bubs might be under 3 months it can be advisable to go to the next flow otherwise bubs will get very frustrated and vice versa.
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I use karicare HA for Gabs, it is a hypo allergenic one as I get dermatitis so its supposed to help reduce the risk of allergies for her.

She did power vomit for a while and she does sometimes have wind issues but the power vommiting has pretty much stopped now and the wind is getting better, so I have put that down to her digestive system gettting more mature now. She never really screamed because of wind though.

I never contemplated changing formula to improve her wind, I just never thought of it and I was also told not to chop and change, stick to one formula unless there are major issues with it.

Besides I would have to find another hypo allergenic one and her wind has never been that bad.
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lucky- i thought the only hypoallergenic ones were Neocate and Pepti? did you have to go to Paed for it?
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Is it just 'cos of the possibility of their tums getting upset that they reccommend you don't chop and change? Or is it more along the lines of try to stick to one, don't buy a different brand each week just 'cos it's on special?
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both ... will affect their tums and if they end up allergic like Ethan it'll make them worse i suppose?
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My GP told me not to swap regularly ala don't just pick up whats on special. He said that you do need to trial different formulas to see which one is right for your bubs as they all have a different make up. So it's fine to use one and if you find it has a bad side effect like wind and constipation - you can switch and trial another for a few weeks to see if this improves.

In Daniels case we tried Karicare, instant horrible wind that was painful for him. As soon as we stopped and switched to Nurture the wind stopped but after a week or so he got constipated. After dealing with that for a couple of months we switched to S26 and haven't had any probs whatsoever.

It's fine to swap and change like we did according to my lovely GP as it's better to change if you have bad side effects rather than keeping with the same one when another one on the market might suit bubba better

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KA no I just buy the karicare HA from the supermarket, its more expensive than the normal one of course and I guess if you could get it on prescription then it would be cheaper, but I don't know if that's possible.

I just really wanted one that was suitable for our needs that I could find readily at any supermarket.

But all bubbas are different so its definitely trial and error I think, unless you have specific needs then it limits your choices.
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yeah in our case he had allergic reaction to the formula hence we are on hypoallergenic Neocate (as it has protein broken right down to amino acids)
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Hi guys

My son is totally formula fed, and is 4 weeks old. He is currently feeding pretty much every 3 hours, except for once during the night where he can go anywhere from 4 to 5 hours. Can anyone advise when he is likely to move to longer between feeds? Is this something I should be trying to do for him - ie hold him off for feeds, or will he do it all by himself?

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Josh is drinking 220ml every 2-3 hours and sometimes once in the night but he has dropped that again. All babies are different as to how much and how often they want to be fed. If you want to try and move the feeds further apart increase the amount you are feeding him at each feed i know it works for some people just not my boy. Otherwise when he is a bit older and you visit plunket they may suggest a hungry baby formula if he still drinking really often.

At his age id probably just stick with how its going now and wait till after 6-8 weeks before trying to draw feeds out or anything. You will find the feeds will get closer together during growth spurts when babies need more.

Dunno if that helps at all or not im not even sure i made sense my brain isnt the same as it use to be
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mandz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2008 at 3:33pm
Makes perfect sense - thanks heaps. Oliver drinks anywhere from 80mls to 140mls per feed, really depends on him though! I try really hard to ensure he at least drinks 100 to 120mls, but sometimes he just falls asleep and no matter what you do he won't drink more!

Will just leave it up to him at this stage then.

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