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    Posted: 25 September 2007 at 1:09pm
Ok, so random topic. But having had a wee health thing that cropped up a few days ago and freaked me out a little, (you know the snowball effect in your train of thought of oh my god what if it's this, oh crap oh crap oh crap), It suddenly made me realise that whoa, what if something happens, what if i don't get to see my kids grow up. It made me realise there are so many things I'd like to do, or experience, or share with them. Just a weird mummy-panic moment i guess where you realise your own mortality.

Just a wee thought and question for the day, how many of you really know what would happen without you? do you have life insurance? health insurance? what things are in place... or like me, are you just waiting till there's more money for life insurance, or till you get married to do the will?

I just realised how much I take it for granted that things will always be ok. (and why shouldn't i.. cos they will you know. )

Hope this isn't a downer.. isn't meant to be, just a bit of a deeper and meaningful conversation starter.
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Weee, that sure is a deep and meaningful!

We have comprehensive health insurance, we don't have life insurance as we have a family trust that will provide for my children in the event that anything happens to me. If something did happen to me my parents and/or my sister would take custody of the kids, Willie and I have discussed it at length and we both agree that it would be the best option as he has a few complex health issues of his own, and wouldn't be able to take care of them on his own.
That said, I don't have a will and have been meaning to do one for ages (must talk to Bombshell about that) and I also need to appoint my parents testamentary guardians of the girls. So if I died tomorrow (God forbid) it could be a bit complicated, but it would work itself out.

Hope you are OK Janine and that this health thing isn't too major!
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We looked into this a little while back and took out life insurance (both of us), it's not a "lot" as far as LI goes but it will cover the funeral and the mortgage, and hopefully make life on less income a bit easier on our spouse. We did our Wills at the same time. It was so hard to find guardians! And I try not to think of what would happen without us having Wills, FIL and M would be at loggerheads over who gets what
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We have life and health insurance. We also set up a trust and have written our wills. Our life insurance we got when we bought our house (3 yrs ago) and health insurance is through DH's work. We wrote our wills and set up the trust before Ollie was born.

If I were to die the mortgage would be paid and there would be a little left over for DH to take some time off work. I come out a little better if DH were to die as he also has a policy through work, which would mean the house would be paid off and I wouldn't have to work for a couple of years if need be. It was an awful thing to think about (in fact I have tears in my eyes right now thinking about my kid/s growing up with out me or DH), but now its all in place I do feel a little better.
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Originally posted by mum2paris mum2paris wrote:



I just realised how much I take it for granted that things will always be ok. (and why shouldn't i.. cos they will you know. )

Hope this isn't a downer.. isn't meant to be, just a bit of a deeper and meaningful conversation starter.


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IT never really occurred to me that I might die when my kids are still young until one of the mums at Maya's daycare passed away from cancer a few years ago. That was an eye opener
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i have life insurance but no will i must do that but i know that james would be going to my parents and if they were to old my little brother and his pantner
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I have recently been looking into life insurance. Realised I would be in the poo and need to sell our house if anything happened to DH, and prob vice versa. Anyone know what happens to a student loan if that person passes away - is it just like any other debt that still needs to be paid? I think we will only get enough to cover funeral, mortgage and any debts - at this stage anyway, we just cant afford any more.

I have started an online public trust will cos it is free, just having issues about who the kids guardians would be. I'm not quite sure how to broach the subject with my mum.

Its horrible to think about, but like someone else said, I think I will feel better about it once its sorted. Hope everything is ok Janine
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I have life insurance covers the mortagage. DF doesn't qualify cause he's in the military, if anything happens to him I get 4x his salary and his super.

We got wills done when we brought the house, and will redo them when we get married.
There was some odd quirk with wills, in that if one of us dies and then the other dies within 14 days you have to say what will happen.

I don't have health insurance, should probably look into that so if we need it we have the option of going private.
DF gets free dental and medical care, makes me want to join the military for the perks.

It is something good to have in place, cause family don't always respect your wishes when you die.

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as ive said earlier my friend passed away suddenly when her daughter was 3 weeks old, im not sure if she had health insurance etc, she was married so her husband has the baby but her mum looks after her while the daddys at work (by mum i mean the babies nana) but whats hard is we dont know how nats would have wanted her daughter to be parented, so in my will (when i get round to doing one) if im able to i'll leave a letter to my parents (who will have c if i die) on certain issues, but also, what if i have marry my dp? and have more kids? those will be her half siblings -is it fair to take her away from them?
Argh!sometimes growing up and being an adult SUX lol, i just never thought mums could die cos wer'e needed so much, but obviously thats naive thinking, cos none of us are invincible ...
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I have health insurance for me and the boys (I've had it since I was 4 so was keeping it). Me and DH have a will as we got it when we brought the house (the lawyer told us he does them for free with a mortgage). But we don't have life insurance but it is my next thing to look at once we are both sorted.

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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We have life insurance for me (not alot) but no health insurance (pricey) and non for my DH... we have been thinking about getting some though... we also dont have wills yet... nearly... but are having trouble deciding what we would do with our kids...

We really should do it all soon though!
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mm we thought that too.. a few years ago it was a toss up between the girls living with my sis in hamilton.. (who is now a single mum with teenage kids.. not knocking single mums at all but would want my girls to be in a 2-parent environment) or mikes parents.. also though, while they are younger than most in-laws.. only just in their 40's, they are still used to a fairly kid-free lifestyle.

Ultimately i know that most people in my family parent VERY VERY differently to me and mike, which is fine for them but i would hate to think of my girls in that situation.

We need to look into wills, i mean we have both always said our preferences etc, (ie i would want burried, he would want cremation) and all that, but yeah, it would pay for us to put it into a will i think - it's one of those things you know you should do, but never quite get there.
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Originally posted by mum2paris mum2paris wrote:


Ultimately i know that most people in my family parent VERY VERY differently to me and mike, which is fine for them but i would hate to think of my girls in that situation.



This is exactly how I feel about Willie and his family, I love him, and he's a good dad, but only coz he has me to kick his butt and keep him in line, so if I was taken out of the equation I wouldn't want him raising the kids alone, whereas my parents did an OK job with me (I think )
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I would looove my parents to be able to take the kids as they love them and the kids spend alot of time with them staying at their place... but my parents are in their 60's and while they are used to the kids... it would be too much for them!! And my sister isnt capable.. no kids of her own and she is a bit clueless... and she has issues... so we have no idea at this point... friends have said if anything happens to us etc etc but they dont have kids of their own yet... and what would happen when they do... I mean 3 boys on their own is alot!!!
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Aimee - a SL gets wiped if the owner dies yay!

Janine I feel the same about leaving our children in either of our parents' care. Too yucky! In the end I asked my brother what would he do if he had to make the decision of where the kids would go, and he named two close friends of ours (that he has only met, but he had seen them interact with Hannah at 2yo) and said he would ask them first. Because he was able to think of what the kids would need, I signed him on!
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we did our will just (and I mean just the day before) we left for the Uk. I had this horrible feeling what if the plane crashed? what would happen to the kids if they survived and we didn't? As it is we are fine and made it in one piece but we have a will in place. Dh has the kids if I die and visa versa and my parents if we both die. Don't know what I would do if my parents died, as really theres nobody 'I' (nor they I suppose) would want to have all three... cross that bridge when we came to it

As for life insurance yep both got that too... Its not alot and really you got to think - Whose gonna pay for your funeral if you die??

Do you want to burden someone with the cost of that?
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We have life insurance, so Ifone of us dies it will pay of the mortgage completely and then the other parents just lives on the earnings....which is great!!

If both of us die the Zaara will have the house paid off and have extra $$ in the bank. The only thing I havnt done is assign who would look after her......I cant think of any one who I trust ...for various reasons. I dont have that many family around ...may be my BIL. Not sure.

Thanks Janine, gives us some thing to think about!!

Oh and we have health insurance as well. We also have super which I think in the case of death is given to next of kin which will be my hubby or Zaara.

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hmmmm very touchy subject in some respects, we have wills and my brother and his wife are the guardians of my two, not sure if they know this oops must tell, I would not want them to go to my dh family as much as I like them they have totally diff parenting style to me and are alot older than us with grown up children dh youngest is youngest of 8. As for medical and life insurance don't have any our budget does not allow it but it is something I would have if we could afford it and in the back of my mind it worries me that if one of us did die how would we pay for funerals eeekk can't bare to think of it!
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we have life and health insurance and so if something happens to one of us, the other will be OK financially. If something happens to both of us, then Jeremy's brother and his wife will have Brenna. We didn't want either of the parents having her cause they are getting older etc and his brother is the only sibling of either of ours who is married and in a family orientated phase of their life. We also know they would love and care for Brenna like we would.

It is sad to think of these things, but I feel happy knowing that things are in place incase something does happen.

Good topic Janine, it really does make you think more

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