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    Posted: 02 November 2008 at 8:44pm
Did anyone go to the seminar from Dr Robert Titzer regarding teaching your baby to read.

I thought it was VERY interesting as a first time mother to be... especially when the child behind me starting reacting and reading along to the DVD being shown.

The programme was expensive and I wondered if you could make some aspects of it yourself?

Has anyone used this system?

My impression of the show... holy heck you could spend a billion dollars if you had them Oh and how many emails, phone calls, brochures am I going to be sent or receive after entering all those competitions
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I'm personally that keen for my child to be reading much before they go to school. I think as long as they can recognise the letters and some of the sounds that are associated with them they're on the right track.
If they know too much before they go to school it can actually disadvantage them since many schools just don't have the resources to assist advanced students.

I am a teacher myself (in music so not the most informed when it comes to new entrants literacy) and often it's the advanced students that are naughty cause they get bored.

I hope to let my kids be kids while they can and I'm sure you will teach them many important things without even trying through reading them books and singing songs at home.
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Well said Music Mummy - Infact I couldn't agree more. Lucas LOVES his nursery rhymes/songs and storybook time ...but I think kids learn best when they're left to explore and find things out for themselves.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love a little Einstein but I'm sure he will do just fine at school and I'm giving him the best possible start just by reading to him everyday - no need for expensive programs IYKWIM
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i was all into letting my child develop at his own pace, until her was about 3.5 and then suddenly started getting paranoid.

But after a few chats, realised that reading skills, while important, aren't the most important skills - actually at this age social skills are pretty high up, so am not worrying too much and trying to just go with the flow - although am stopping Jake taking his smurf to kindy for "N" day.

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I saw the seminar too and I also had the opportunity to interview Dr Titzer afterwards. I must admit I went into it very sceptical, I honestly don't see the point, or the neccessity of teaching an infant to read.

I'm still not convinced that it needs to start that early (from birth) but I was most impressed with the seminar and the system. In fact, reading aside, I suspect it might also be quite useful for language development as it also encourages spoken language. OHbaby! now has a review copy so watch this space to see what the OHbaby! team think of it in practise. I'm planning to try it with my Sienna who has speech delays.

As for teaching kids to read before they start school, I don't think I agree that it disadvantages them, this is something I discussed with Dr Titzer, but also something I experienced with Maya when she started school. Her Montessori had a reading programme for the 4-year olds, she started it at 3 as she demanded to have reading books like the bigger kids. She started school in February reading at level 8/20, she is now on level 19/20 and goes to the Year Two class for reading as her reading is so advanced.

I don't think we should be forcing our kids to spend every waking hour learning to read before they start school, but for those kids who take an interest in it and are keen I think it's incredibly important to nurture that. Maya would have raced thru Dr Titzers programme at a rate of knots, but she would have enjoyed it for sure.

I think too that the onus is on the parents to ensure that their children's schools don't allow them to be disadvantaged by having to wait around for the other kids to catch up. I pop into Maya's classroom regularly and talk to her teacher about where she's at, what I can do to help, what I think she needs extra help with and what areas she needs to be extended in.
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OT but wow Liz, when did Taine get so grown up (in you av pic)?
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[QUOTE=BuzzyBee]

Don't get me wrong, I'd love a little EinsteinQUOTE]

Really ? have you seen those obnoxious little children in their green rocket ?


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LOL Kelly, ugh we have the DVD and he insists that we play the theme song continuously ...he doesn't give a stuff about the program itself
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And isn't their rocket red? Does pregnancy make you colourblind these days? bahahaha
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oh is it ? they WOULD have a red rocket wouldn't they , just to prove me wrong, obnoxious little so and so's ...oooh look at us, we know artists and famous composers , blah blah blah !

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I LOVE Little Einsteins.

Wouldn't want one myself though, I worked extensively for gifted kids and for the majority it is NOT an easy thing to be.

Given that Lily's vocab extends to mumma, dadda, up, oh dear, dancing and yay, i don't think she will be needing an early reaading system
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To be honest I'm not that keen on the idea, I'm sure the systems do work and all that but I'd rather let Miss M go at her pace. If she shows interest in learning to read quicker then great but I'm not going to push it.

We do have flash cards that she likes to play with though and she often gets those out.

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I enjoyed reading your post and comments Emma. I will look forward to seeing your review. As a primary school teacher (who has taught new entrants and junior children mostly) I also don't agree that children are disadvantaged if they can read when they come in to school. A good teacher runs a reading programme with groups at a range of levels - some children will be working right at the beginning and others can work up to whatever their level. We would usually have about half a dozen children come to school a year who could read at a level much higher than their age. It was no problem whatsoever. They would work in a group together and do activities suitable to where they were at. They weren't bored but in fact stimulated and bright interested wee children who loved to learn and picked things up quickly.
I don;t think children need to be able to read before school but I know that if my child was interested in learning letters and letter sounds before beginning school I would be all for encouraging it. I personally think it is harder for the ones who come in with no letter/sound knowledge. It isn't something you can force though as all children learn at their own rate and the last thing you want to do is force them or put them off.
I saw a really great interview with Robert Tizer and was also really interested. I brought the first DVD and book . Oliver has loved looking at the pictues in the book and chatting about them but wasn;t interested in the DVD. I also thought it was pretty boring compared to some of the other educational videos out there. He has learnt more from other books, magnets, general toys etc I think. We haven't really done much with the DVD after that as he just wasn't interested.
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I saw his interview on the breakfast show last week and thought WOW how cool is that?? but I dont know if I would force that kind of thing on Z. He said 3 is the best time to start.

I personally think that they learn when they are ready. Zaara loves her book and is interested in letter now and knows alot of them....I raher she knew the letters first before knowing the word!!

I dont know...I am in two mind about it!!

As for LE...I love the show...Zaara learns sooo much from it..and yes the Rocket is RED!! lol

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The July mums have heard my rant so I'll get off my high horse ...

One issue that I have with it is that parents who would buy the DVD are likely to be fairly middle class families who are likely to be doing all the pro-literacy stuff that you have all mentioned - reading together, looking at letters and shapes, talking together, singing together ....

Another issue is that I would hate to see it used with putting the child in front of the DVD and then mum/dad doing other things while it's on (probably cos they desperately need time and space to get household tasks done ) - it's so important to have human face-to-face interaction in the context of developing language.   Research has also demonstrated that oral language skills are the fundamental building block for developing written language skills (including reading) so it's incredibly important that these have the same attention/input as reading, if not more while at the preschool age.
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I agree with what you said about learning the letters etc first Roksanna. The other thing I found 'interesting' about it is that it shows the word before any picture cues. At school children learn the other way around. I know that his philosophy says childen's brains are capable of learning that way if we start at such a young age but I guess after teaching the other way for many years I wasn't sure about it.
Also agree with the not putting infront of DVD thing - he stresses that it should be done in intereaction with parents though.
An interesting topic.
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Is Little Einsteins on TV or is it a DVD? Have never seen it.
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Its on TV , sky disney to be exact , I cant stand it, but it seems to have some fans on here


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Yay debate... just what my posting was looking for.

First of all I don't want anyone to think that I am trying to create the first child nobel peace prize winner. This is my first child after all and I am happy for this expectation to go onto my second child. No I am kidding.

I do not have a teaching background however I loved school and my husband hated school and this does have a huge impact on how each of us experienced school.

I am interested in the variety of ways that people think you can help your children to develop and learn and thought this was a really interesting seminar. Yes obviously part of it was "buy my programme" however there was also a lot of information about how you could assist your child's language and reading development that cost time only and not a penny.

Maya I will be interested to read your review and hear any others opinions.   

PS: No phone calls from exhibitors yet however I have a couple of emails I note... strike while the iron is hot ..good sales technique :-)
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Yea little einsteins is great , well you get used to it I suppose (just like the wiggles, hehehe). My little man loves watching it almost as much as he loves blues clues, he sits there and talks back to them like he's in it or something its sssooooo cute!
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