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    Posted: 25 January 2010 at 9:24am
Hi Ladies

Needing some advice please, sorry that this post may be long

My partners 19 and im nearly 19 aswell, we are renting a house atm for $180 a week, cheapest where we live and also a good home. My partners on a very little wage atm $12.50 per hour. He works for the local council here and is in the process of getting his work to re do his contract with him as they stuffed it up Big Time !! We are having a baby due on 16th April aswell. We are really wanting to be able to buy a house and upgrade our car to a nicer one. But the problem i have is that since we are so young anything could happen to his job atm and we wouldnt be able to pay the loan and everything we need for a new house But on the other hand i know we cant work on what if's. We want to start seting up a nice home for our baby and own it and have the joys of doing that together but at the same time dont want to put ourselves in a bad situation.

Since we are still young we are still learning about things and not too sure how to go about this, it is very complicated to get my head around lol.

Anyone got any suggestions on how we can achieve this the right way without getting into money problems at our young age ??
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Do you have a deposit for a house? Because if you dont then its pretty much a null and void question

Its pretty hard to get a mortgage at the moment (and probably even harder on one low income), so you may just want to start putting money aside for when you are in a position to actually get a house.
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my advice would be to save up as much as you can for a good deposit. dont get sucked into a no or low deposit deal that leaves you with a large mortgage.

Owning isnt all its cracked up to be though. You have the added expenses of house insurance, water and land rates and maintenance.

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No we dont have a deposit atm I do think saving for one would be a good option tho
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Originally posted by Bubie Bubie wrote:

No we dont have a deposit atm I do think saving for one would be a good option tho


Wouldnt it be your only option? Most no deposit deals require you to earn quite alot as you need to service two mortgages, so I dont even think that would be an option for you.
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Yoiu can't buy a house without a decent size deposit these days so saving would be a good option. TBH on the wage that your DP is on it will probably take a good 2-3 years to save a deposit so the option of buying a house is out of the question until that is done.
       
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There is always the option of a Welcome Home Loan, which is 100% finance, but the lending criteria has toughened up quite a lot. It is focused on first home buyers. In saying that, I wouldn't recommend buying a house until you're sure of a stable income...just because the costs can add up, and you also need funds up front to pay for things like lawyers fees, valuations, LIM reports, builders reports....and they can add up to a good $2-3k, which is money you can't borrow. Also remember, on top of the mortgage, you have rates and insurance, plus any maintenance costs.

I just had a quick look on TradeMe at the properties for sale and rent in Gore, and there's some pretty cheap properties out there though...

Still, your best option is saving for a deposit, unless you can get a Welcome Home Loan. And no, the interest rates aren't any higher than a normal home loan, you just have to pay a low equity fee which was 1% of the purchase price when we bought our house 2 years ago.

If you are really serious, get hold of a mortgage broker, and they can go through the sums with you and you can see if it actually is a possibility for you. And remember....you don't have to start with the best house, you have to start with the one that you can afford.

ETA: You could also have a chat to SBS down there...they do Welcome Home Loans and they are a great lender as well, really supportive and friendly.

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Ditto to what others have said. Atm they require about large deposit. My sister and her DH are saving atm will renting, they are on 2 good incomes (95k per year all up) and it has taken them 1 1/2 years to save the 30-40k needed (and that's through welcome home loans, banks require a lot more).

We are on 1 1/2 incomes and only just got a mortgage through a bit of fiddling. Personally I wouldn't jump into anything until baby has been here for a while and you're back at work because you would need more income.

Good luck though - I love owning a house but yes you do have a lot of added expenses.
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I would definitely start saving now! But don't stress about it too much, it is possible to one day be owning your own home.

We were in pretty much the same situation as you guys a few years back. We were both 19 with a baby on her way, on minimum wage in a job where we were unsure how stable it was.
We were living in a tiny wee place, 1 bedroom, and out the back of my parents there. Although it was small we survived (actually I often miss my teensy house) but it was great as the rent wasn't excessively high which meant we had a good 5 years worth of savings (and a little help from my parents) DH even changed jobs in the middle to an even lower pay but we survived.
Just last year we managed to buy our first house with a pretty decent deposit. I am so glad we waited for the right time as we aren't having to struggle financially.

Don't worry about the house you are in now, its just a house and the 3 of you living there make it a home. The new baby really doesn't care where it lives as long as it has a roof over its head, and is loved. I am sure eventually you will be able to upgrade your car too but it will feel so much better when you have the money to do so.


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Even with a Welcome Home loan I am thinking they would only qualify for a loan of under $50,000 as they are on a low income - could be very wrong though
       
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Banks have REALLY tightened up. We recently tried to change our bank and were told we would could only borrow 70% of the house value.
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Firstly I would make sure you have no big debts if you do pay them off first.

The other option while you are saving is kiwisaver after doing it for a few years you can use the money for getting in to your first home.

As you say you are young & rushing into a house may not be your best option just yet, it would be easier if you have money for emergency's, like house maintenance etc, as you will have to pay for all repairs & jobs, not like renting.

I understand you want to get everything now, house, car but with having a baby soon you will find a lot of $$$ goes on that, so i would say make a good budget, save & talk to family they may be able to help.

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Yep, you have to be completely realistic. A house may be just a bit out of reach right now. Concentrate on paying off debt then start saving towards a deposit.

The MOST important thing right now is that your baby has the necessities.
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Agree with all of the others. When it does come to looking at options for that first home though, be careful with kiwisaver. I signed into it entirely for that, but we purchased a brand new relocatable and stuck it on a section because it was cheaper than other options for us at the time, and I therefore didn't qualify for kiwisaver.
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Yeah Kiwisaver's a crock. If you're in it, I strongly suggest taking a contributions holiday and just keeping the money aside. Chances are it'll all be blown by the time we're retirement age anyway.
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I think the important thing at the moment is for you to provide for your baby and then anything extra put aside for a deposit on a mortgage. You guys are young and in time will be in higher paying jobs so will be able to save more than you are currently able to now. We didn't buy our own home until we were 25 and by then had saved up a 20% deposit. It's not something that will happen over night but it will happen eventually!
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I havent read all the replies but if your partner has been working for over 6 mths in his job then you will qualify for welcome home loan which can be no deposit so long as you are wanting to borrow within your means. As you are already paying rent of $180 a week you should be ok as it shows you would be able to make payments. Owning your own home down here is cheaper than renting!! We just brought our place and our mortgage is less than your rent even after the rates and insurances come out. Do a budget now so you have an idea as to what you can afford. I made up budgets based on houses i liked that were for sale as most show what the rates are (its also on the council website) so i had a better idea as to how well we could afford it.

If you cant go through welcome home loans then you need at least 20% for a deposit we had to do this because DP had only just started working since we had moved down. We ended up using a mortgage broker and she was excellent.

Make sure you do have a couple of grand saved tho to cover lawyers fees and any reports you might need to get.
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Originally posted by emz emz wrote:

Yeah Kiwisaver's a crock. If you're in it, I strongly suggest taking a contributions holiday and just keeping the money aside. Chances are it'll all be blown by the time we're retirement age anyway.


What? That's a pretty sweeping statement. KiwiSaver isn't a savings account, you don't contribute in order to withdraw the money when you want to buy something, it is retirement savings, for when you retire. I'm not sure what you mean by "it'll all be blown by the time we're retirement age" either, unless you're suggesting all the banks and financial services institutions such as ING & AMP will all be going under.... KiwiSaver isn't really too different to pension schemes that have been running in other countries for years, people just need to take the time to investigate what they're signing up for.
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Hmmmm, I agree with summerlamb. How is it a crock emz?
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I don't think it is a crock either.

We are going to set the kids up now with theirs through Westpac & we will make payments in to theirs & their saving accounts, & hopefully when it comes to time for them to get a house it will help them or at least they will have more towards their retirement.

After all any savings is good
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