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    Posted: 07 April 2011 at 6:53pm
about her pop-pop dying?

I recently lost my grandad and we are all devastated. I just dont know what to tell Briahna, im not sure how without breaking down in tears. Not only that i am unsure of what to say.

She doesnt understand pop-pops gone to heaven, she just said yep and walked off when my sister said it.
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I wouldn't worry about her seeing you crying, Mel and sorry for your loss, it must be HUGE. If she can see tears as "normal" for this it will become less scary for her as the days go on, IYGWIM?
It depends on what you believe, too, I think, the whole heaven thing, When we talk about my dad dying, the kids will tell me that "poppy has gone to heaven cos he was real sick and Jesus makes him better but he has to stay up there"..("benefit" of a catholic school, lol)
i don't have much advice to offerm but do offer my condolences to you.
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First of all,its good to see you ,I remember you from when your little girl was just born :-)

Secondly,it does no harm for your child to see you cry once in a while,it teaches them that mummy has feelings too and that crying is normal

thirdly...don't try to get too caught up with her not understanding,kids understand more than we think and she will soon catch on that her Pop-pop isn't there,and when she does she will come and ask you,and then you can tell her that he isn't with you anymore and you wont see him ,if you believe in heaven,and im guessing from your post that you do,then you can add things like him being in a beautiful place up in the sky and that he will be watching over her and that she can still talk to him but she wont hear him reply.....she will get it,they always do eventually.

In the meantime since she doesn't seem to perturbed just yet,I would concentrate on yourself and your own grief and allow yourself time to mourn before you try to cope with what to say to your daughter on top of it.


And last,im really sorry for your loss Mel,my thoughts are with you





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One of my earliest memories is of playing with my brother and looking in the window and seeing both Mum and Dad in tears - their close friend had been killed in a car crash. It definitely stayed with me that Mum's and Dad's have emotions too, but not in a bad way or anything. So don't worry about crying in front of her. And I know I didn't understand enough to be sad, even though us kids loved the friend, but we (even my little brother, who would have been tiny at the time) understood - we just didn't quite have the developed emotions for it to mean as much to us at the time.

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I agree with the other posters above. We have recently been through a couple of deaths of great grand parents and we told our 3 year old DD that they have gone up to heaven to float on a star. Now when she sees a star at night she says "little Grandads floating on that star Mummy", and she often talks about him and how he has gone to heaven. She also saw us in tears and came to the funerals.

We also got the grand-children to release helium balloons (all of them are 7 and under) and they all talked to each other about how Little Grandad had caught there balloons up in heaven.

Sorry for your loss, its such a tough thing to go through
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Hey!

Welcome back Mel, I was in your due in August thread.
I am sorry to hear your grandad passed away, i have no advice as mine passed away when Kylah was alot younger.

~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~
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We have just been through this with our girls as my Dad died just over a week ago

Amy understands a lot better than Sophie that Papa has died and is gone and is not coming back. Sophie is still trying to grasp the permanency of death. We have just tried to answer all their questions as truthfully and simply as possible. We said that Papa had been vey sick for a long time and he was tired and his body was born out and. That the doctors could not make him better anymore.

Before the funeral on Tuesday I explained that people would be very sad, especially Grandma and Mummy but that was ok as we were saying good bye to Papa and wee were sad that we would not see him again.


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As the others have said, I wouldnt be too worried about her not understanding. As harsh as it sounds, 3yr olds dont seem too bothered that someone isnt coming back..as long as its not mum or dad IYKWIM. I know its no comparison but we lost our cat late last year. I was very upset. T just got that mummy was sad and that Birnie had gone to the vets and was now in the garden. He just took it as such. For a while he kept saying that we had 2 cats but now he just thinks he's in the garden and had never questioned it any further.

I think its totally ok to let them see you cry. It IS sad...even though losing a grandparent is kind of natural. HUGE HUGS!! and welcome back.
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I know it isn't the same as losing a Grandparent, but I have just been trying to explain to my 3 year old about his favourite horse of his Grandads dying.

It didn't go well. I tried to explain that Sam the horse was very sick and that he has died. That he has gone to sleep forever. But then my son got a cold, and kept saying 'I'm sick like Sam the horse, am I going to die?' and it was horrible. He totally didn't understand.

In the end I bought the book 'Old Hu-Hu' by Kyle Mewburn which explains it in an easy to understand way for kids.
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we have got 'Old Huhu' too. I bought it when my Dad was very sick in December and we didn't think that he would make it to Christmas. It is a good book.

With regard to being sick/old - Amy was worried because Grandma is old too but we emphasised that Papa was very, very, very old and had been sick for a long time and the doctors had made him better before but he was too sick this time and they could no longer make him better.


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Jaycee,Im so sorry to hear about your dad chick :-(





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Mel & Jaycee - I'm sorry for both of your losses

FIL passed away in February and we had to have this discussion with the kids. His health had been in decline over the previous year and the kids didn't see him as often so there was some seperation anyway. We sat them down and told them that Grandad had died, he was very sick and very old and he couldn't get better. The kids listened then asked to play .

We were open with how we were feeling and we talked alot about the funeral, what they could expect to happen and how it was an opportunity for everyone to talk about Grandad, remember him and say goodbye. They drew pictures for Grandad which DH put into the coffin (DH & his siblings chose to have a closed casket). If they had any questions, we answered them as honestly as we could. I think they took it better than we did to be honest!
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Thanks Kelly and mummydee. My Dad had been sick for a while and he was ready to go. The day before he died I sat with him for a couple of hours whilst Mum had to go out and he said his goodbyes to me then . We were luck that Mum & Dad moved to Wellington 2 years ago so they got to spend heaps of time with the girls.

Sorry to thread jack Mel and I am very sorry for your loss too. i hope your wee girl is OK too.


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We call my Grandad PopPop as well - I thought we were the only ones!!! He asked us numerous times to make it 'Pop' but it just never stuck. I'm so sorry for your loss.
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SORRY TO HEAR JAYCEE !! Its never an easy thing is it :(

thanks everyone for your comments. its helped alot. havnt been online as my family has all been over. dreading the day my mum goes back to scotland, and my brothers already gone back to thailand :(

At the funeral last week my sister told Bree say good bye to pop-pop and she waved to the coffin as it when down then sat there with this sad look on her face with tears but not quite crying.
By the way shes been acting i know in some way she understands. Shes been good too. She was sooo special to him, so im getting this pic enlarged and framed to put in her room once we get a new house.




lol k8 thats funny. My pop and nana would tell bree too cal them nan-nan and pop-pop. its so cute.

i wondered what she would remember of him and i thought it might not be much. but i remember my great gran we called her little nan. and she would give us minties or some sort of lollies every time we saw her. Im pretty sure i was around brees age too so i hope she remembers how he was with her :) like i said he loved her to peices.

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Just today me and my two were talking about my Dad who died when Jake (now almost 6) was 18 months old and Charlotte wasn't born, and hy grandma (dads mum) who died when Charly was just two and jake almost 4. Jake remembers both vividly and will talk about stuff they did together and stuff, and Charly remembers "Old Man"s (Old Nan)fluffy hair and little things, so have no douby she will remember her Pop. Talk about him often, make him part of her life and she will never forget, Thats what we do with ours.
Jake still tells me at least once a fortnight he misses his Poppy and he was only a wee tacker when Dad died, so, yeah. They remember.
Hope you are ok xxx
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