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    Posted: 03 June 2010 at 6:54pm
Hi there im just wandering if anyone here has a HRV system and if anyone has a opinion on them and also if they noticed a diffrence with one?
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are they the same as DVS systems ???
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cost vs what they do its expensive as heck.

If you are simply wanting to transfer heat from your lounge and transfer to other rooms then I would suggest going to the electrical wholesalers and buying a fan some ducting and do it yourself.

The HRV does however take heat from the ceiling space and transfer that down into the house via use of a air filter. Keep in mind it will only do this if there is heat up there to take. on a cold day some systems actually use a built in heater to blow your warm air down to you.

Common complaint is also the air up there smells musty etc keep in mind not much ventilation up there up till now and it has nowhere to gain fresh air from.

So all in all depends on what you want it to do and for what cost.

If I had to choose between using some warm air from the ceiling space and creating some with the use of a heatpump I'd pick the heatpump any day.

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We have one. It seems to be doing it's job, since this summer was bearable most days and I was pretty heavily pregnant throughout and now coming into winter it's not icy cold anymore, but I reckon a heatpump sounds much better as you can actually control the temperature.

We're still using a heater in our room. (coldest room in the house)
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Love it - we don't get any condensation on any of our windows any more and the house is more efficicient too heat without the dampness in the air.

They aren't a heating system though, which some people think they are.
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Originally posted by Red Red wrote:

They aren't a heating system though, which some people think they are.


True, I should probably comment on the air quality huh?

I haven't really noticed any change in dampness or odour or whatever else they're supposed to clear out. At all.
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Thanks guys
Julz - im wouldnt have a clue if so which would be the cheaper of the 2? hmm
MooCow - Yea they do seem a lil on the expesive side, would cost us over 4000 for our house (we have a massive louge) its not too much of the heating in our case i think we were thinkin more of the moisture and condensation (sp) we have a fire place that seems to do its job pretty good but we are in northland so and havent really felt the the cold here and our house ibeen pretty warm so far (never lived here through the winter)
Jelly - we would just use our fireplace as we get free fire wood from DP parents, Do you have much miosture and condensation?

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We have one here. It is great.. and there's no moisture/condensation. The air is also drier.

It also gets stinking warm in the afternoons once the temperature rises... BUT, on a frosty morning it basically shuts off because there's no warm air to move from the ceiling. So its not a heating system at all.

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...I have no comments on the product...but I've met a sales person in another context (ie they weren't selling to me)...and the whole "target sales" talk put me off!!
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My mum has one and said they are great so long as you get the filters cleaned/changed every 6 or so months. And you are the one who has to arrange it as once they install it they usually don't contact you again!!
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Oh also it's much better for single storey than double storey. My mum got it for dampness but they can only do ducts in the ceiling/roof space so the downstairs rooms are still damp in winter like you won't believe!! But the upstairs ones aren't.

They don't transfer heat, although you can get something that does transfer heat from roof to rooms iygwim. Personally I like the thermometer on it! And you can set the temp and it won't cool the room below that iygwim.
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I should also say the main reason we have one is DP and I were out one day and by the time we got home the sales team had made DP's overly nice mother feel as if she had no choice and I don't know what they said to his elderly and slightly senile father but he seems to think it's a heating system that uses no power.
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I've had them in two different houses.
In a smaller house, single story, 90-120 square metres they work well.
In bigger split level or two storied houses, not so great.

Honestly, I don't think they're worth the $2500 they want for them.
They helped with condensation, didn't stop it. Didn't keep the house any warmer really and they create a lot of dust.

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well if its the same as the DVS system ( which its sounding like it is ) iv just ,moved 2 weeks ago so havent quite got the hang of how to use our DVS system yet , it does have a heat option on it and iv noticed if i use this that it does send a little bit of heat through the vents but certinly not a heater. i certinly have never noticed any condensation or dampness since moving in . I really need to have a good sit down and read the manual , i dont really know if i should be leaving it on all the time or turn it off at night, its very quiet , havent had a power bill yet so dont know how expensive it is to run , should be interesting .
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We never noticed much of an increase in power bill. We have a small 3 bedroom house and paid about $2,800 nearly 3 years ago including ventilating the bathroom. It says to get filters changed every two years. And I agree, their follow up service isn't as good as it could.

Strange to hear you have noticed that they generate alot of dust Mum2Mac. Thought it would be the opposite. Strange.
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Oh I'm interested in how it created dust for you Mum2Mac??

I'm not surprised people think its a heating thing as when we had a quote the guy went on about heating, and I'm like thats not even what they're designed for, I want it to get rid of the moisture/ condensation!! I know several people who have said they're great for condensation (and then for heating their home easier), all have been older single level homes. I'm quite keen on one in our place as it can get quite damp and so difficult to heat, we are on two levels but there is a wardrobe that can be used to get to the only room without ventilation downstairs.




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Hi, just thought I would put my 2 cents in

 

We had a Moisture Master installed in our house in chch - a 120sqm bungalow  - after looking at MM, DVS and HRV. It cost $2800 for a duct into every room, and seems to be working well (place is tenanted out). MM just seemed to be a better product than the other two when I researched them, they also have the option of adding heating into the ducting at a later date if required (another $800) and this would mean the air being moved around from the roof space would be heated. The MM guy said not to bother with the systems that include a heat transfer system built in - it would be cheaper and easier to pop down to Bunnings/Mega mitre10 and buy one of their DIY jobbies instead - which I was a bit suprised at, as he also sold heat transfer systems (why tell a client that your product isn't any good!? But at least that showed honesty).

 

Our primary reason for getting a system installed was to dry the house out, not a particulary damp house, but got terrible condensation on the windows in winter, which left the house really chilly. By drying it out, the heating has become way more effective - we have electric heating at one end, and a gas fire at the other (flued). The system has paid off in terms of reduced heating costs and less maintainence due to the reduced moisture. And if the tenants want, we will get the ducting heated when they ask, but so far they haven't needed it.



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I thought the purpose of them was to keep airflow through the house thereby not letting the moisture settle and that is why you don't get condensation. They'll heat a little when they bring the air from the roof space but only if the air in there is warm to start off with, which on a freezing winters day it isn't going to be.
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That sounds about right, but the MM system is designed to keep the air moving - even on cold chch winter days, think it operates between -10 and +25 degrees from memory? But the air in the roof space will always be warmer than the outside....brrrr! Having said that, the air in the roof in winter will generally be cooler than that in the house overnight, hence the ability to add heated ducts, so not forcing cold air into the house while you are sleeping. Anyway, it seems to be working really well - and we are so happy with it (spent a year saving up to get it installed so was really really hoping it would work!).

 

Hope that makes sense - rambling a bit as haven't slept in 3 nights



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Originally posted by Jelly Jelly wrote:

I should also say the main reason we have one is DP and I were out one day and by the time we got home the sales team had made DP's overly nice mother feel as if she had no choice and I don't know what they said to his elderly and slightly senile father but he seems to think it's a heating system that uses no power.


They must pick on old people, coz they sold it to my grandparents (my mums house), and they thought the same thing - no power
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