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    Posted: 30 June 2010 at 10:23am
Ruby has midwinter Christmas at preschool today so after sending her off with her santa hat on it has got me thinking.....

For her last two Christmas's we had decided we were never going to teach her that Santa was real and that she would get presents from friends and family and not from Santa. I wasnt planning to explain to her that Santa wasnt real, just never tell her that he was if that makes sense.

This year she will be two and old enough to understand and now I am wondering if it is the right thing to do

I know it is only June still but Chrismas will come around soon enough

Any thoughts on this greatly appreciated

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We aren't doing anything either way. He gets presents and I don't think hes of an age where he cares where they come from lol. I'll just wait and see whether he decides there is a santa or not and just go with that
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We don't do Santa.
Firstly we celebrate the birth of Jesus and secondly people have gone to alot of effort and put alot of thought into getting the kids gifts and I would rather take the opportunity to teach them about thankfulness and appreciation rather than a non-existant fat man in a red suit
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We'll most likely do Santa or Father Christmas, eventually children work it out for themselves that he's not real.  Personally I think Christmas is all about children and they get the most fun out of it. 
The Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny aren't real either but it doesn't matter they're all part of childhood experiences and fairly harmless.

I do think the whole mid winter Christmas thing is weird - I have this debate with MIL as far as she's concerned is its not 25th December its not Christmas - just a fancy dinner.


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We believe in Santa in this house Thats half the fun of Christmas for kids when they are young.

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Originally posted by caliandjack caliandjack wrote:


I do think the whole mid winter Christmas thing is weird - I have this debate with MIL as far as she's concerned is its not 25th December its not Christmas - just a fancy dinner.


I used to have the opinion that if it's not cold, wet with possible snow then it's not really Xmas I'm slowly adjusting however.

It's hard to comfortable stuff yourself silly when it's hot outside

ETA: We'll probably do Santa. But it does feel a bit weird lying deliberately to your kids.

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I reckon Santa is one of the most exciting parts of Christmas as a kid. I still remember one Christmas eve the news was keeping track of where Santa was. They had a map of the world with a sleigh on it and after every story they would do a Santa update. When his ETA was about 10 minutes away (He'd just done Sydney lol) I ran off to bed giggling because I knew he wouldn't come if I was still awake
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we do the santa thing only because we believe it is a great thing to experience in magic as such when you are a kid. We also do easter bunny and yet to do the tooth fairy too
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Christmas talk already...geez

I had always intended on not doing the whole Santa thing, but it never really worked out that way.
Unless I completely removed my girls from society they were quickly going to get caught up in the whole thing, its hard to aviod it when you see him in malls, on TV programmes, books, christmas parties... he's every where around Christmas.
And when Keira started telling me she needed to make sure santa had cookies and milk when he came to visit, I just couldn't break it to her that he wasn't real.
My Pop has always dressed up as Santa at Christmas. Arrived in some ridiculous fashion ( like a blow up boat which got stuck in the middle of a lagoon...). And given out presents. We all know that it is my Pop but Keira still tries so hard to believe it is really santa.

One day I know she will figure it out for herself. I remember being a child and figuring out, and realy it wasn't that much of a big deal.

It is fun to pretend, to keep that innocence, I wish I still believed in Santa!


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We do Santa & Sinterklaas which is the Dutch one & we have that one on the 5th Dec, my boys put their clogs outside & get so excited by it.

We do the tooth fairy & Easter bunny also & they go looking forr the Easter bunny on an egg hunt which is such great fun.

We are in no hurry to spoil the illusion although DS1 probably knows but plays along as he enjoys the fun.

I remember when I was a kid the great xmas we had & want my kids to have the same great feelings & memories.
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my parents always felt like they did not want to lie to us...so when we asked questions they would tell us the truth.
In holland an even bigger character is 'sinterklaas' he looks almost the same (not fat).
In the early days parents would say he and his helpers would take you away if you were naughty...so lots of kids were more scared than anything else...I think sinterklaas is based on a bible character and the story just got bigger over the years...doesn't have much to do with the bible story anymore I think...

The difficult thing though, with it being so big in holland and all the other kids thinking he was real...well, we were not supposed to tell them. So I used to think it was so cool that I knew and the other kids didn't.. I still enjoyed all the special occasions when he would show up and hand out presents...i didn't care he wasn't real...Just always wondered who it was behind that white beard...hahaha

don't know if that was much use....

edited to add:
cool jazzy...we must have posted at the same time...we're still thinking about whether or not to do sinterklaas as well as christmas....i like the whole shoe thing, hahaha

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We totally do the Santa thing. One of the best parts of childhood in my opinion is the joy and wonder of those 'impossible' things - like Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. Children don't have to be jaded by our reality. I remember finding out that Santa wasn't real and it was never a traumatic event. In fact, I decided to keep letting my parents think that I believed as it meant more presents!
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With our kids at a catholic pre school and school, they tend to keep santa out of it til the last week or so, however its impossible to hide from no matter what you want to do.
WE got an awesom ebook form the christian book shop that was a very basic story but at the end said we celebrate Jesus birthday which is why we give presents to each other, to show we care. While you might keep Jesus out of it too, it was a good way of simplifying the gift thing.
The important thing, i think, is that people who tell their children there is no santa (and you've said you just aren't going to introduce santa) remember that others children do believe and their little one might spoil the fun a wee bit for some of the others.
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I think Santa's a lovely idea, when we were little 'he' gave us our little Christmas stocking pressies, but all of our other gifts were from real people IYGWIM . I remember having a wonderful time putting biscuits & milk out for him when I was wee , and leaving carrots & water for the reindeer...One Christmas Santa rocked up to our family Christmas party in a speedboat - such a cool memory!
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I cant wait to have kids because they make xmas so special! i dont think it is lieing to kids just pretend
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We don't do the Santa thing, but my mother does for the younger brothers, so I let Santa visit Nana's lol.
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Good thread, I don't know what we'll do although I had thought about not doing it, it's going to be everywhere and I suppose that is the 'fun' part about it as a kid until you learn hes not real!

I knew the tooth fairy wasn't real when I lost my first tooth and heard my grandparents arguing on what to give me
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We do Santa. We even did it last Christmas when Jude was only four months old. I think it's loads of fun. And I have no problem lying to my kids. In fact, I'm going to lie all the time Especially when they ask me too many "why, why,why?" questions. Like why can't I watch more tv? Because your eyes will go square. Why should I eat my crusts? So that you can grow hair on your chest/ grow curly hair.

And so on and so forth. Yeah, I can and probably will give them a truthfull answer to start off with but kids have a tendency to ask the same questions over and over again.

Making up stuff is fun - but then, I come from a jokey, tricky, mocking kinda family. It's always fun to try and make the others in my family believe something outrageous


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Originally posted by Flake Flake wrote:

We don't do the Santa thing, but my mother does for the younger brothers, so I let Santa visit Nana's lol.


My cousin does this as her boy's birthday is Christmas day, he has his Birthday at home in the morning and goes to Nana's for Santa.

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We're planning on lying to our daughter and telling her chocolate is adult only food like alcohol so she won't get addicted to it like DH and I.

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