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    Posted: 09 November 2005 at 2:36am
Hiya,

I am having my baby in Saudi Arabia and have been told by a couple of ladies who have had their babies over here that if you can't breastfeed straight away that they try to take the baby away and feed it formula - I really want to breastfeed and am wondering what would happen in NZ if I was having trouble breastfeeding??...also they don't keep the baby in the room with you - they only bring it to you to feed. I want the baby to stay with me the whole time...is this what happens in NZ?
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The hospital that I had Arna in (Palmerston North Hosp.) they have breastfeeding "tuiton" every morning so show how to latch baby on, look for signs of hunger, problems that may arise etc, they also have lactation consultants if you are having furthur problems.

They keep the baby in your room in a hospital bassinet (on wheels) - however if you are having a hard time and baby has been fed etc and just not settling they offer to look after baby until they are ready for another feed.

Something that might help re: Breastfeeding - practice with a doll now how you want to latch baby on as this is usually the hardest step (keeping baby on the nipple properly, suckling properly), so when baby is born you have some idea of what to do.

Do you have a midwife that you meet with? They are invaluable over here and help you with all your problems.

Hope this helps and all the best!!
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its your baby and your choice - I think you need to establish with them that in your home you do things differently - are they prepared to make allowances for that? - respecting your cultural differences? It shouldn't be an issue really. Talk to the consulate or embassy for contact with other NZ woman who may have delivered in S.A.

I had my baby in another country and they respected wishes.
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I agree, the consulate or embassy is a good place to start. Also discussing your wishes with your obstetrician or midwife so that they know beforehand what your intentions are.
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Kim... How is Saudi going?
I want to go there but have been advised by so many people not to. (But I am defiant so will anyway )
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We were considering having Jake in Japan and they have very strong ideas about birthing....no drugs, no yelling, high rate of C-sections due to "too small pelvises" (pelvi???), no rooming in, and formula feeding. We ended up shopping around and finally got someone who would conform to our wishes....then decided to have Jake in NZ. As the others have said, the mebassy is good place to start as they may be able to get you in contact with others who have been in your situation. I also found numerous web sites with message boards from pregnant women in Japan, maybe Saudi has that kinda thing too?
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Thanks for you replies. When I see my Dr next I will tell her what we want to do. I haven't met my birthing team yet so will check with my Dr how I will tell them what we want to do. My room also has a pull-out couch so my husband is going to stay in the room with me and make sure our instructions are followed!

Nikki, we live on a compound so feel really safe as there are two check points (guards with guns) to get into the compound and if an Arab is coming onto the compound they check their cars more carefully. You also feel quite safe when you go out as they still cut off heads and hands for stealing etc. You just have to be careful that you don't go to places where the majority of people are Westeners.

The malls are quite bizaare as all the women are totally covered up - you can only see their eyes but all the women's clothes are like what we wear - lots of singlets, mini skirts, tight clothing which they must wear under their abbayas. Some even wear clothes and socks so that you can't see their hands or feet. We have to wear an abbaya when we go out in public and only have to cover our faces during Ramadan (which has just finished).
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that sounds so fascinating. I'd love to love to live in that culture for a while - must make for an interesting day!

All I can say is dont' let them take your baby out of your sight - ever. Its your baby - not theirs. You call the shots. That applies everywhere in every country I think, I would not let it happen to me.

And its great that your husband is staying with you to help you / back you up - thats exactly what you need.

Good luck.
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Thanks for that Kim. It is really interesting to hear it from the NZ perspective. I've heard Saudis describe their home country and Americans etc but hearing what it is like up to date is great.

It drives me nuts how superficial Wahhabism is. My lecturer was telling me that he was in Saudi with a "pious" Saudi man who offered him a drink, which he assumed was tea, but then the Saudi man pushed a button which brought out this flash looking bar like you see in American movies in Las Vegas. Things like that and the fact that the girls wear mini skirts under their abbayas is so funny. Ah well...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 November 2005 at 2:21am
My husband said there are a lot of Saudi's at his work that do all the praying etc, yet at the weekend drive to Bahrain which is about 50 minutes away so that they can drink and go to bar and clubs!
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ohhhh isnt micheal jackson residing in bahrain???
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Yep.... so sad that I know that....

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