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BaAsKa 
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Posted: 13 January 2008 at 11:14am |
I need some info on getting hair chemically and thermal straightening...
now before i go on - my sis is a hairdresser and i did ask her BUT she has always been really fussy about what i do with my hair! (god knows why!?) so i tend to take her answers with a grain of salt! and to save me ringing every salon around! i thought i would ask here....
I wanted to get my hair chem straightened which my sis says is between $80-$120 and will make it pretty much frizzy and fry my hair, then the thermal straightening will be better but will cost $400!!! 
if it matters i have "a bit of everything - weather" hair , ya know - does what it wants depending on the weather!  and im sick of straightening it hence my enquiry 
so how much is it to get chem or thermal??? and what are the pros and cons???
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Katherine
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Posted: 13 January 2008 at 12:01pm |
The former Beauty Editor at the Weekly got her hair thermally straightened and wrote a story on it (while I was doing a contract there, so this would be about eight months ago). Yes, it costs a fortune -- she quoted $600-$800 from a salon in Auckland. The cons were that it took several hours, you have to sit perfectly still while the straightening is being done, you can't wash your hair for... I can't remember how long, but it was a time period after the process was done in order for the treatment to "set". Also, your roots will grow out frizzy and the rest of your hair will still be straight, so you need to decide what to do there. The pros were that her hair was perfectly, glossily straight right from waking up in the morning and without even blow-frying it after a shower -- it would just dry that way. I can't remember how long she said it lasted for, but she was a fan.
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Posted: 13 January 2008 at 12:20pm |
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Chemical straightening from what I remember when I asked at the salon it is the opposite to a perm. Instead of putting your hair in rollers and puting chemicals on it, they use card and apply the chemicals, so the same hair care post perm would apply. I would personally get some GHD's as my hair dresser said it would really damage my hair.
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Posted: 13 January 2008 at 12:34pm |
I have not heard of thermal but have done chemical and cant be of any help so far as pricing, I have not been working in a salon for 5years & that was in Sydney, so no help.
By the sounds of Katherine's post thermal sounds the way to go even with the cost as with chemically straightening generally you would still need to blowdry to get that *finished* look, you still have to sit still & it takes ages, cant wash your hair for recommended 48 hrs (to set), & you will still have the regrowth. So if you are going to go thru all of that anyway you may as well walk out with a great job as opposed to an ok job that you still have to muck around with.
Advice: Ask if you can have a piece of hair tested to make sure it agrees with your hair, as some hair just will not stand up to this type of treatment and it is a lot of money to pay to be dissapointed.
you may have to give your hair a break from heat treatments for a while (not sure) if your hair is coloured, this also may have an effect on other treatment. Yes your hair will grow out the same as any chemical change you make to your hair, growth is approx 1 inch per 4weeks so prob wont be too much of a prob for the ist couple of months. I would imagine similar to a perm, most would get it redone at about 4-6months, just depends what you can put up with. Hope this is of some help
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Posted: 13 January 2008 at 12:59pm |
Well, its costs around the same as a perm, and also depending on the type of Salon, I think my mums salon charges around $80-$120 depending on hair length.
Its like any hair treatment such as colouring, bleaching, perming etc, it WILL damage the hair, chemically straighting the hair is one of the worst, you will need to take extra good care of your hair afterwards like using a really good shampoo and conditioner and also a leave in one.
And you would have to have the roots re-done as the curly hair comes back through with the new hair growth.
If you dont mind really looking after your hair after you have it done then go for it, but using the straightners is slightly better and you can use a protective spray before you use them.
**Ive done hairdressing aswell by the way, and my mum is a hairdresser 
Good Luck!
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Posted: 13 January 2008 at 3:09pm |
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Posted: 13 January 2008 at 3:22pm |
Don't we all amber . Sounds like we have the same sort of hair. When mine's wet it's quite curly & looks really cool, but dry it just a goes kinky. So I tend to straighten my hair most days too, but it is time consuming & it's too hot at the moment as well.
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Posted: 13 January 2008 at 3:23pm |
lol, its never that easy, even living with a hairdresser doesnt make it that easy! lol But the best thing is heaps of treatments and stuff, do a hair mask and put some gladwrap round your head for 10mins then rinse off and put a leave in conditoner in, then blow dry and straighten it and put a hair gloss in or a smoothing product(I use garnier smoothing serum) and your hair will feel SOOOOO nice 
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Posted: 13 January 2008 at 3:34pm |
i hardly get any time to sit down and straighten my hair these days! and yes anoushka it is soooooo too hot right now! hence my trying to find the lazy way to look great! lol
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Posted: 13 January 2008 at 4:33pm |
My hair is well overdue to be cut & coloured too, was done when Jett was 3 weeks old, so nearly 4 months ago! My close friend is my hairdresser (she's an AWESOME hairdresser) & keeps saying it still looks really good, but I think it badly needs a trim, gotten too out of shape. So I tend to just wash it, dry off the top & straighten that bit around my face so it doesn't so frizzy & boofy, leave the back curly & tie it up! It's moulting badly too atm, so if it's down I find loose hair all over me. Much cooler with it tied up, but it makes me feel boring at the same time, if it's just tied up.
ETA: sorry totally gone off topic there Amber !
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Posted: 13 January 2008 at 4:57pm |
hehe you sound like you are describing my hair and haircare anoushka! lol....would be much easier if i just shaved the whole lot off! lol
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Posted: 13 January 2008 at 9:59pm |
I heart my GHD and couldnt live without it. I straighten my hair 90% of the time. it drives me nuts with my hair when the weather is as unpredictable as it is at the moment so I have a hard time dogding the rain which sends into a state of craziness at the ends and sides. Goodluck on deciding what treatment to use. I vote for the thermal straightening i have heard great things about it. Am looking into getting it done for over winter so I dont have to worry about the frizzy hair in the rain lol
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Posted: 13 January 2008 at 10:18pm |
I am booked in to have Thermal Ionic Straightening done when I come back to NZ in March- so excited!!! Its costing $450 and will take 4-5 hours (I have long wavy weather hair too!). I can't wait- have been wanting to get it done for ages. My friend with really curly frizzy hair had it done and her hair is lovely and glossy and frizz free- and she doesn't have to do ANYTHING to get it looking like that. My hairdresser doesn't even do chemical straightening any more- she said that its embarrassing how inferior it is to the Ionic straightening that she doesn't want that for her clients (the whopping price difference may sway her opinion though ).
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Posted: 14 January 2008 at 8:33am |
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I had my hair chemically straightened once and I will NEVER do it again. My hair was ruined, all frizzy and 'chewy' plus I still had to straighten it every day.
Instead, I invested in a pair of GHDs, some good L'Oreal shampoo, conditioning mask and a product which I put in before I dry it.
I have been straigtening my hair for the past couple of years with my GHD and believe it or not, my hair stays kind of straight now anyway like it has been retrained.
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Posted: 14 January 2008 at 9:30am |
It seems we all have frizz to deal with. Italiah, Amber, mine does the same. If it is wet it canhave a nice curl then as it dries it becomes a frizz. If I can dry it slowly inside it can be nice but if I go out in the wind it is AWFUL. I am so lazy now that I just tie it up and it was 5 months since my last cut and colour so I trotted off down to try the local ($35) cut and boy was I disappointed!
My hair is really thick and always gets massively thinned out. I asked her 3 times to thin it and she argued that that was the last thing I wanted to do as she had put layers in and that would thin it for me ...BOLLOCKS! Then she asked if I wanted it dry. I'm thinking "how can you tell how well you have cut it if you dont dry it?" So she dries it. My hair takes AGES to dry, she was really quick and it was only paritally dry. Then she asks about straightening it. I'm thinking you better as it is so frizzy now. So she tries to straighten great chiunks at a time. Basically she spent 15min, dryng and straightening my hair!!!!
THEN....she clipped it up with a centre part and 3 little twists either side. So I ended up with a 5 yrolds (minus the glitter)hair do and a big triangle of boof on my head!
Thankfully my trusty GHDs settled things down but it feels so thick and hot, not nice and silky like it normally does after a cut.
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Posted: 14 January 2008 at 9:47am |
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Get it all chopped off hehe. Thats what I did!! I had my hair thermally straightened while living in Melbourne and was still disappointed in the results...it was nice and straight for maybe a month but then the kinks started to creep back again, a waste of money IMO. If I was to do it again, I would just invest in the GHD straightner, then at least you have the option of having wavy or straight hair...and you can get such a good result in hardly any time.
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BaAsKa
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Posted: 14 January 2008 at 10:06am |
ok call me naive but what is a GHD??? im assumming its a hairstraightener but a certain brand???? i currently have a vidal sasson (SP??) and it doesnt really do a very good job 
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Posted: 14 January 2008 at 10:31am |
Yeah its a make of hair straightener that you can only buy from a hair salon (I think they retail for about $300, but correct me if I'm wrong) and they heat up in about 3 seconds and are so easy and quick to use. I don't have one, but my SIL does and I couldn't get over how good it was compared to my crap remington model - took me like 5 mins to do my hair (which believe me, is as thick as hair comes )
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Posted: 14 January 2008 at 12:32pm |
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my darling husband brought me some GHD's when he got his hair done one day (i think he was trying to say something) thay are real good. and i have a real curly fizzy mop and it takes about 5-10min to have it dead stright and i only do it once a week when i wash my hair
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Posted: 14 January 2008 at 3:08pm |
Good Hair Day is what GHD stands for - they aren't cheap but they are so worth the money. Seriously!
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