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    Posted: 18 January 2008 at 2:34pm
I'm going to start switching to formula (will do it over a few weeks and slow down the expressing) as I just can't handle the pain in my boobs anymore (I have boob issues already and them being huge and full of milk certainly doesn't help!)

I've seen that Heinz Nurture is a good cheap formula. I also saw S-26 at the supermarket which looked a good price. Any comments/suggestions or advice? We really don't want to spend more than $15 a tin if we don't have to as its really not in the budget, but I'm just not a good breastfeeder, (take after my mum!) so want to do what's best for me and Jack.

Comments please, or if you can recommend any good formulas to try that would be great!
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Is S-26 the soy one? if so that isn't recommended unless on the advice of a GP.
Until we found out that Spencer had an allergy to cows milk we were using SMA that always seemed to be about $15 a tin and was quite often on offer at countdown.

You might find that you have to try a few of the main ones as some bubs get constipated/spilly from certain formulas.

Hope you boobs are feeling better soon.

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Andrew had S26 and we had no problems with it. I was given it to give to him as it is the most like breast milk (well so I was told).

Josh is on Heinz and no problems either, I went with Heinz as at the parent and child show they were the ones most willing to help me out. And I like it as it is quite cheap as well.

I would say try a brand for a week, if he has no issues then stay with it, if he does try a differnet one.

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Nope S26 isn't the soy one.

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I personally stay away from ALL Karicare formulas, all of my kids have got really sick on that one eg: constipation, the runs and it just doesn't agree with them.

Soo Cooper is on Heinz Nuture Gold. It's the more expensive one, but it agrees with him. The normal one gives him constipation.

If you are in Auckland; Nappies for Less on Trafalgar Street, Onehunga sell it for $17.99 per tin, whereas the supermarkets sell it from $18-$22 per tin. Actually they sell all of the Heinz Nuture cheap.
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We got told that about the S26 as well Becks. That it is the closest to breast milk.
We have just put Sam onto the S26 Formula as she has decided that she no longer wants to B/feed. I have found it to be quite a easy change for her. She loves it and apart from extremely unpleasant nappies it doesn't seem to have given her any problems. Helps that it is only $16.99 a tin at P&S too

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Funny Cooper is the other way around.
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We found karicare made Daniel so windy he would scream all day long so quickly stopped that.

Nurture and nurture gold make him constipated as hell

We have started him on S26 the past couple of weeks and he's got no issues so far.
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Yeah have to agree with Karicare - horrible stuff Andrwe was in so much pain with that so I haven't even tried it with Josh.

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Thanks, its so nice to be able to get advice from people who have been there, done that (or are still doing it!)

I'll venture out next week and buy a tin of 'something' when I look at prices more closely!
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Why don't you start with sachets rather than a whole tin? At least that way you can try them for a couple of feeds and see which one Jackson likes best etc? It only took 2-3 feeds to figure out that karicare caused Daniel massive wind probs.
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Also Emz ring the companies and see if they can send you samples. Your MW should also be able to give you some thats how we got onto S26 with Andrew.

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I use the Nuture plain (not the gold)...haven't had any issues here with it or the gold. Mum2Sam, I think you'll find the unpleasant poos ease a bit as their wee tummies adjust so hang in there !


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Sachets are a great idea to start with. Generally the Gold formulas are casein dominant so closer to breast milk in formulation and the standard formulas are whey dominant.
We weaned the gremlins off Neocate (allergy formula) onto Karicare, then S-26 coz I found the shape of the tin and scoop more user friendly after being used to the Neocate, and then onto S-26 Gold as it's more calorie dense and the dietician was concerned about their slow weight gain.
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We used to be on Karicare Gold plus and then switched to S-26 gold and have never had probs with either

ETA: in saying that Gina's poos got firmer when we switched to formula but as she was 6 months at that stage it wasn't a huge concern as I could give her pear puree etc to loosen things up if needed

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it's funny you all say that about karicare.....we used that with both jack and charli without any problems at all. the times we had to get nurture because karicare was out of stock, when they spilled up, it was the consistency of cottage cheese and really smelled bad


just goes to show how different babies can be. i'd get samples and see which ones suit jackson best

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Originally posted by mummy_becks mummy_becks wrote:

Nope S26 isn't the soy one.

I have the S2-6 soy one for Alize althou I have noticed he has started to have rather runny poos with it so I m unsure if I will stick with it for a few more days and see if it settles down or change altogether  Goodluck with finding one


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Kels if he is allergic to cow's milk you aren't suppose to let them have soy either as they can then get an allergy to that. Its before certain age though so over 12months might be ok, but I would check with your paed or someone to find out more. I know that when I spoke to the dietician/nutricianist at nutricia she said not to give it to Spencer for that reason. Is a pain in the arse cos generally if something is dairy free it has soy in it.

ETA is he on a specialist formula now? cos you can ring 0800 NEOCATE for help with it all, I got better advice of them than off my gp.

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My dear mother bought us a tin of S26 stuff, so will get it tomorrow night and start weaning him onto it in the next few days.

I'm very worried about telling my m/w - she seems very adamant that I should be b/fing and wasn't happy that I decided to express. Guess I've just got to be strong and realise that its better for my health if he's on formula rather than breastmilk.
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Originally posted by cuppatea cuppatea wrote:

Kels if he is allergic to cow's milk you aren't suppose to let them have soy either as they can then get an allergy to that. Its before certain age though so over 12months might be ok, but I would check with your paed or someone to find out more. I know that when I spoke to the dietician/nutricianist at nutricia she said not to give it to Spencer for that reason. Is a pain in the arse cos generally if something is dairy free it has soy in it.

ETA is he on a specialist formula now? cos you can ring 0800 NEOCATE for help with it all, I got better advice of them than off my gp.

He was tested for soya bean and it was negative as with fish but my GP has just left me hanging food/milk wise and just said cont with soya milk and cut all other foods he is allergic too and wait to see paed spec.  Argh dont see them until April. I have a referral to paed dietician that was sent on Friday but I mihgt get proactive and ring the paed myself and see what she says..... Its so easy to pretent I am working at my last job to be able to page her to ring me, sneaky I know but needs must and all.

Thanks for the heads up cuppatea, I gues I better go and get some rice milk now to stop the runny poos and hope that doesnt do anything


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