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    Posted: 22 January 2008 at 6:53pm
I was having coffee with a friend of mine this morning and because she was someone who I trusted and had been supportive in the past I told her about my 5-week miscarriage that happened a couple of days ago in the weekend.

She said "oh well things could be worse" and started to tell me about a friend of hers who was dying of ovarian cancer because she thought this would make me feel better.
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Niiice! I got "oh well you're only young, you'll get pregnant again" and "It wasn't *really* a baby"
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Yes also very anoying is the " It happened for a reason" and my all time favourite " Its natures way"...... hmmmm


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in all honesty, before i started coming onto ohbaby those were the kinda things I would say. never having had a miscarriage, when someone tells you they have had one, i know my instinct is to freak slightly and try to avoid the subject. nowadays I would deal with it differenlty but without the lovely ladies here who talk about things openly (about how comments like these upset them, i would never had known)

perhaps saying something like "oh, i told an old friend about my miscarraige and they said "inappropriate comment here". it made me feel so bad. it sould have been better if they just gave me a hug and said how sorry they were"

this might get your point acorss and get some much needed support. unless of course your friend doesn't take subtle hints.
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I hate "it happens for a reason" I got told that by all of my friends when I had my MC. Yes I did know that but you didn't need to rub it in.

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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I agree Liz, I can be especially bad as i deal with being nervous by talking, and when I am nervous-talking I don't think thru what I am going to say. Pre my last miscarriage I probably would have put my foot in it big time. Ahh the benefits of experience
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My friend was really trying hard to say the right thing and she noticed that it wasn't being well received and apologised. I know she meant well, but it felt awful.
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Oh i loved those comments,. I think the best one was "It happens for a reason, there was probably something wrong with it for that to happen" Yep maybe there was, lets rub it in that after 2 great kids you finally got something wrong and you can't actually change that. It made me so angry, then it makes you scared that maybe your first 2 were flukes and the next will have something wrong with it. argh, stupid peoples comments.

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I was always taught that if you dont know what to say - then its better to say nothing. Except that backfires in these situations because it can come across as being indifferent / cold / unsupportive! Its always hard to know what to say to a friend who is hurting, especially after something as sad as a m/c.

Sometimes a hug is better than words anyway.....

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After having had bleeding with both my pregnancies and knowing how heartbreaking it is to think you may be losting the baby, I still wouldn't know what to say.
Big hugs to you anyways

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I hated the "It happens to lots of women" comments! At that stage I DIDN'T CARE if it happened to someone else because it was ME that was going through it - does that make sense?? (I care now about others going through it of course but in the moment...)

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of course I hated the it happens for a reason it was just natures way..but since I've been pregnant I get 'oh well at least you can get pregnant again' and many other comments implying that I'm replacing my last baby with this one so i should just 'get over it and be grateful' (someone actually said that) GRR!
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OMG yes Kawwww I had one friend say that to me "well at least you know you can get pregnant". Not the best time to say it.

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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Originally posted by kawwww kawwww wrote:

of course I hated the it happens for a reason it was just natures way..but since I've been pregnant I get 'oh well at least you can get pregnant again' and many other comments implying that I'm replacing my last baby with this one so i should just 'get over it and be grateful' (someone actually said that) GRR!


ohhh i had this excate comment just 2 days ago, and i can tell you, if my toddler was feral, then i was down right all out there wild women, i went right off my nut (in the supermarket of all places). I wont repeat what i said as its not for nice ears...lets just say this person left in tear and isnt talking to me at the moment....I also have to admit that while i feel bad for the way i handled it, im not sorry for what i said.

This has to be the worst comment i get, but my best comment (the one that tends to make me feel better) is when someone says to me "i dont know what you are going through, or i dont know what to say, but i am thinking of you"...cos i find that if you dont know what to say then say so, and it will be okay...and it shows that you care as well

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yeah i agree kazzle..i also get how people dont know what to say but really!!!!! as for the supermarket incident i can totally understand..
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Or how about, "it's good that at least it was early on".. !?
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Kaz that is what I say to people that have close family members die. I have never been through it so I straight say to them I'm sorry but I don't know what you are going through but hugs.

OMG Pearls the dr said that to me.

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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urgh i hated the idea of that real baby thing "at least it's not a real baby yet, at least it's early", I had a friend who had an abortion at 8+ weeks, and She found it so hard to comprehend that i was grieving over this fully formed beautiful baby I had seen up there on that screen that was just missing a heart beat when she hadn't thought of it that way. I guess, once you have had kids of your own already you know what you are missing even more, because that little bean up there on that screen doesn't just represent the here and now, it represents all your hopes and dreams, all the xmases to come all the birthdays and special occasions you've already imagined, all the stuff you know and love from your kids you already have, gone. And sadly, it can take away from those occasions when they come around and baby isn't there to share them as you had hoped and dreamed of, you still try and be happy but some part is always missing.
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Yeah I got all those comments aswell, they really pissed me off as I just didnt want to hear even if I knew some of them were true. Its like...when you have had a m/c you KNOW something was wrong, and you KNOW you m/c for a reason, but you dont need or want to hear it! My boss didnt seem overly sympathetic when I m/c last year, she started going on about how she knows its hard as some of her friend have m/c, but then I felt like saying , No you dont know what its like, you have two healthy children and you have never lost a baby so you dont know what its like or how hard it is until you have lost one yourself. Also my other boss said to me(a month after thw m/c while they were having a meeting wih me to tell me I wasnt doing a good enough job!!!!) that he believes "Everything happens for a reason" and I wanted to punch him. I left that job not long after that.

I think that sometimes people just dont know what to say, and thats fine, a hug and no words can help SOOO much more than saying "It wasnt meant to be" or 'Everything happens for a reason".

My DF and I think now, that maybe the wee baby we lost was meant to be cadens little guradian angel, and that helps us when we feel a bit sad about losing the baby, we know that he/she is watching over this little baby in my tummy.

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MmmIt's nice to think of it that way Sheza isn't it, I sometimes feel that everything happened the way it did because i wouldn't have coped had it continued, with having to move house, complete work deadlines then having my grandfather die, I would never have been able to rush up there at the last minute to say goodbye to him had i had a new bubs or been ready to pop, And with this extended period of mike being off study that we hadn't imagined. we would have been broke and down and out if i wa son maternity leave too.

I also like to think that the reason my grandaddy was burried on the same day that had been my EDD is some way of letting me know that they're up there together and my baby has someone to look after it.
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