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Mazzy 
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 Topic: Talkback debate GRRRR
Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:26am |
Well, after Jen's post about controversial topics I hadn't planned on starting any today, so hoping this will remain civilised!
I was driving home from dropping DD at creche this morning and switched to RadioLive. They were talking about screening for disabilities in pregnancy (spina bifida, downs etc.), which is a touchy subject anyway, but this one guy rang up and I was actually speechless. He basically said that he thought every pregnant woman should be screened and if there are abnormalities found then she should have to have an abortion, no choice about it.   His reasoning was that at the moment it's a 'heart over mind' choice and when these children get to middle age, who is going to look after them? The tax payer. So it's not right and we should be more common sense about it.
I am SO ANGRY that there are actually people out there who think like this. It's outrageous!! Pregnancy (for women and their families) is fraught with hard decisions, from whether to test in the first place right through to the hardest decision anyone will have to make. I'm not wanting to get into a debate about what the right choice is because I think that's a totally individual thing and each person has to do what's right for them and their family. But to not have that choice! To be told that your pregnancy is being terminated to essentially save taxpayer dollars!! I know this guy is one person and not the majority, but I seriously didn't think ANYONE thought like that. I mean, who cares!! Taxpayers pay for criminals to be looked after in jails - if I had a choice of where my money went I'd much rather see it go to support a family who decided to go ahead with a pregnancy that had tested positive for spina bifida or something. Since when did budgets dictate life? GRRRRRR. Sorry. Just so blown away by that guy's comments, must be pregnancy hormones because it made me really upset and I needed to vent somewhere!
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Shezamumof3
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:29am |
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someone should give that guy what he deserves!!! I would hate to have him in my family, heartless moron!!!
Thats just such an awful thing to say, makes me angry!
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BabyOnBoard
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 12:02pm |
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I totally agree with you Mazzy!
That is such insensitive and warped. . What has happened to our society that money is now more important then human life
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 12:16pm |
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minik8e
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 12:37pm |
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My thoughts on this are simple - nobody has the right to take a choice away from another.
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 1:13pm |
 minik8e wrote:
My thoughts on this are simple - nobody has the right to take a choice away from another. |
your right there...once we start taking away peoples choices where does it stop...!!!
However i can kind of see where the man on the radio was coming from. If you think about people with severe disabilities who are raised by their parents and then when the parents get too old and cant cope and there is no other family to take their child in what happens then? Who is left to care for that person? Of course ideally other family members would step in, but if there are no other family willing or able to? The other side of that coin too is that then you have a person of limited or no understanding being potentially shoved from pillar to post and not knowing why the same people who looked after them all their life is no longer around.
The man on the radio was obviously going to the extreme but i do think that the long term effects of having to raise a severley disabled person are often overlooked..and i'm not just talking from a taxpayer point of view.
Now i realise this may be a controversial POV and not to everyones liking but it is my thoughts on the topic and in no way am i advocating forced testing and forced terminations...i just dont think science can tell us enough to let us go down the road of testing let alone the consequences...
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EthansMummy
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 1:20pm |
That is shocking!!!! I can't believe someone would say something like that - obviously doesn't have kids himself because I bet his opinion would change then!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 2:23pm |
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I wonder what he would have thought if the shoe was on the other foot? Say there was compulsory testing of sperm for chromosomal abnormalities for every couple TTC or pregnant (so not just the mum) and if the testing was positive they would have to castrate him - don't think he would be feeling quite so adamant about it then.
**Disclaimer: this is entirely personal opinion and maybe a little extreme, but I am just trying to play out another facet of the subject.**
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 3:29pm |
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What an egg. Obviously doesn't have children ay.
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BabyOnBoard
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 4:56pm |
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Isn't it compulsary in America to have blood tests before marraige for reasons like this?!
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 7:24pm |
Mazzy wrote:
I am SO ANGRY that there are actually people out there who think like this. It's outrageous!! Pregnancy (for women and their families) is fraught with hard decisions, from whether to test in the first place right through to the hardest decision anyone will have to make. I'm not wanting to get into a debate about what the right choice is because I think that's a totally individual thing and each person has to do what's right for them and their family. But to not have that choice! To be told that your pregnancy is being terminated to essentially save taxpayer dollars!! I know this guy is one person and not the majority, but I seriously didn't think ANYONE thought like that. I mean, who cares!! Taxpayers pay for criminals to be looked after in jails - if I had a choice of where my money went I'd much rather see it go to support a family who decided to go ahead with a pregnancy that had tested positive for spina bifida or something. Since when did budgets dictate life? GRRRRRR. Sorry. Just so blown away by that guy's comments, must be pregnancy hormones because it made me really upset and I needed to vent somewhere! |
I dont really need to post anything more, cos you seemed to say my exact opinions mazzy.
People like that need to get over themselves
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mummy_becks
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 9:22pm |
I can kinda see his point but I don't agree that the choise should be taken away. I know a few girls with SB and they are lovely.
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I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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Talkback debate GRRRR
