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  | ElfsMum   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Topic: Pneumococcal vaccine? Posted: 31 March 2008 at 9:26pm
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   just reading about this in Treasures mag..(pg 82 top right column,...anyone  know anything about it..it says babies Ethan's age will be recalled for this vaccine..i really thought three was too many at the first set.:( any info would be great.
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  | BellaBoo   Senior Member
 
   
   
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   They are planning on not continuing the menzb one and replacing it with this one (This is in BOP as meningitis has been wiped out, not sure of other areas). I will think about getting it once it is available but will have to pay for it as Bella was born in Dec.
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  | Peanut   Senior Member
 
   
 
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   I am def getting it. My friends wee boy was admitted to hosp for 14 days with this exact thing. The only symptom he had was a slightly high temp and that was it. They caught it early and he is all good now but they were told about the vaccine by the dr's and nurse there. DH and I discussed it when P was in hosp and made our decision after reading teh article today.
 Each to their own tho!
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  | emz   Senior Member
 
   
 
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   When is the cutoff? Do some babies qualify and some not? And what exactly is it? Can you tell I'm far too lazy to google anything tonight haha!    | 
 
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  | Bizzy   Senior Member
 
   
 
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   this is from the article.
 the vaccine programme starts on 1 june 2008. all babies who are born between 1 jan and 1 june 2008 will be recalled by their gp to recive the vaccine..(for those under 5 who remain ineligible after 1 june, you will have to buy it).
 so all babies born from 1 jan 2008 will be eligible for the vaccine for free.
 it is available now but has only been free to some children with severe health problems...otherwise it costs about $400 for all four doses.
 oh and the vaccine is called prevenar. 
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 They are planning on not continuing the menzb one and replacing it with this one (This is in BOP as meningitis has been wiped out, not sure of other areas). I will think about getting it once it is available but will have to pay for it as Bella was born in Dec.
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 Not sure why they would do this - the reason (so the health industry claim) that the disease isnt prevelant anymore is because they vaccinate so not vaccinating just cause there have been no cases of it doesnt make sense... 
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  | mum2paris   Senior Member
 
   
   
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   Yep some of our very at risk wee babes get this injection.   Am unsure why they would stop giving the menzb one though to give this instead.
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   i bawled my eyes out reading that article
 i want to get this when its avaliable, i dont care if i have to pay for it,why are they only making it avaliable to babies born from jan 08????? how does that work
 
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  | BellaBoo   Senior Member
 
   
   
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|  mum2paris wrote: 
 Yep some of our very at risk wee babes get this injection.   Am unsure why they would stop giving the menzb one though to give this instead.
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 There was an article in the local paper about it- not sure of its accuracy but they are planning to scrap the menzb jab at the same time they introduce this one.
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   Yeah, I read that, too. Was in the BOP Times about 3 weeks ago.
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  | Bobbie   Senior Member
 
   
   
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   I was told by my Doctor and another Nurse (different practice) that the MenzB virus lives in the sinus cavity and even immunised people are carriers therefore you could have almost the whole population immunised and still get it. So it doesn't make sense to me that they would be scrapping it because it's 'dying out'. I mean yes, they may be scrapping it in favour of this other one but I doubt that's the reason.
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  | ElfsMum   Senior Member
 
   
   
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   so its a different vaccine? so the one he already had was useless..that pisses me off cause that was the one that hurt the most for him:( 
 so he will still get 3 more of this other one? or does he need four? I'm not going to be online for a few weeks after today..just this allergy thing has given me a real fright and i want to spend some time with him and learnign bout this allergy and the neocate and stuff and my study and not all day on the computer;) but will check in with this thread till its finished so i know whats going on..
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   yes its a diff vaccine - but that doesnt mean the menz b was useless cause they are for diff things as well.  and the prevenar is also four doses.
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   so another 4 doses:( my poor baby.. 
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   Yep I definitely wouldn't say it was useless - just a different strain. 
 We'll miss you KA but I think it's a great idea to spend some times coming to grips with this.
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  | ElfsMum   Senior Member
 
   
   
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   yeah i dont know how serious it is..but i wanna learn before appointment so i can ask educated questions:) and its not forever:) and it will enable me to decide on my study and start it.. 
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   The impression I get from things I've read is that this Pneumococcal virus thing is what goes can cause MenzB (as well as other things), so if this is the case if they kept up with the MenzB vaccine it would be like vaccinating twice for the same thing?
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   Yeah I think it's a different strain though. I'd say that you're right though - this will be why the other one is being phased out. The cost of the new one if you don't qualify is something like $500 so we'll be sticking to the old MenzB. 
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   I had the gremlins done with the Pneumococcal vaccine in Oz as its on the free schedule there and we have Medicare. There's been evidence suggesting it reduces the incidence of ear infections in babies who are prone to them, and given that both of mine have had grommets for chronic infections I thought it was worthwhile.
 Completely OT of WHAT the vaccines are for, IMO I'd far rather subject my child to 3-4 even 10 needles if it means avoiding these awful diseases. If they contract MenzB they end up having lumbar punctures and all sorts of other nasty procedures, not to mention the risk to their life, and limb, so I'll definitely be giving this bub all the available vaccines subject to me researching the testing and trial processes for the new ones.
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   sorry i should clarify..he will definitely be getting all available vaccines..i didnt like that menz wasnt proven but in the end decided the benefits outweighed the risk but i guess i understand that its better he gets some menz protection in the meantime.. just sucks he has to have more needles:(! 
 anyway thanks for the info everyone:)
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