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    Posted: 11 May 2008 at 8:28pm
This is a bit long, but I appreciate your input.

This is a question about a queried miscarriage. Its been and gone, but just wanting your opinion.

Below is a picture of a test which shows a faint positive. A blood test was done the next day, and it came up as 18. I think there was spotting the day of the poas test.
There was some cramping, but nothing more than period pain. Then the next day a full on period arrived (usually light) with some tissuey type mucous stuff with it. This lasted about 5 days with the tissuey stuff lasting only a couple days.
A blood test a few days after the first showed a negative result.

It was 33 days before I had any spotting again and had that for 2 days before af arrived. So I'm also thinking it was a m/c seeming as it ended up being such a long cycle for me.

So...in your opinion, was this a miscarriage? Or was the poas test positive but light. And was 18 enough for a 'pregnancy' that only lasted about 2weeks past ovulation.

I never went to the doctor after the bleeding or the negative test. I had seen a m/w previous who was the one to order the blood tests.

I am asking this because we are into our 7th month ttc and in the first month the above happened. Then a few months later I got another faint positive then af arrived so guessed it was a chemical pregnancy.

My DP has a form to get his swimmers tested but as you can imagine (maybe), he's a bit shy about this and I haven't pushed the topic. He got me pregnant 6 years ago but a few years ago had an op to remove something on the epididymis. (easier to google that than me explain it lol) We weren't told this could effect further fetility.

So what is your opinion about the test? I guess I am starting to wonder if its DP after his op, but had thought I'd m/c'd back in december...but now just dont know....

Thanks for your time :)

Edited to add: it was a cyst that was removed, and research online suggests that a cyst should not affect fertility whereas a blockage could. But it was not a blockage.

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sorry it looks like a negative result to me... i think that sometimes when we know too much too soon it goes against us and there are prob lots of times people are possibly pregnant .... but then before they know it their body has taken care of things...

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I can see a very faint positive sign. For your HCGs to be at 18, you would have to be pregnant - anything over 5 is classed as a positive from a medical perspective.
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Looks positive to me and an HCG of 18 would mean pregnant..but as you said, a "chemical" pregnancy.
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I agree that your body can take care of things...as in chemical pregnancies.
minik8e - I also thought over 5 was positive, just wasn't too sure.
Fiona - I hadn't thought of this one as chemical, but I guess it was also.

Actually, when I was at the doctors and asked for the progesterone test, I told her about the above situation, and also about the other time I had a positive and then af, and said I guessed it was a chemical pregnancy...and she was like 'whats a chemical pregnany?'!
She said she knew about blighted ovum though....but we didn't go into it furhter. Are blighted ovum and chemical the same?
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Yes as far as I know they are the same. I had a blighted ovum pregnancy but when I researched it often found it referred to as a chemical pregnancy. Both are when the egg and sperm meet, a gestational sac forms but it is empty as there is no info to make a baby.

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Thanks Fiona :)
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Depends what you read though! Don't google or you will turn inside out with confusion.
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I read something on the net saying that 50% of all pgys end in m/c but they are just so early most people just think it's a heavy or late af.

My last cycle af was 7 days late and very clotty and heavy with very lots of cramping I didn't test and I did't think anything of it until my doc asked about my previous cycles and he thought it was a m/c. So if that is anything to go by I think it probably was a m/c. Weather or not it was chemical it wouldn't matter because sperm is still needed.

The test doesn't really look much like a positive but I think that just could be the photo.

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Nerefiti- sorry you went through this hun

Quite frankly it looks exactly like I just had this last cycle- a faint BFP one day then cramping and bleeding v shortly after.

We are also into our 7th month of ttc, so I am thinking I tested too ealry and got a chemical pg result or a v erarly m/c.

Sucks big time.


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That looks exactly the same as the very first test I took with this pregancy, i test really early so thats why my line was so faint it almost wasnt there.
Here's the picture


I didnt get a dark line until AF was due. I think i did the test above at about 8DPO....

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We seem to be very similar Emmecat! Lets hope we'll be similar and get BFP's very soon!

Sheza, its the same test too lol

I have been very tempted to test but I am really trying to hold out a few more tdays. I'm at day 26 and usually would have probably done a couple tests by now.
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Oh, forgot to add that my progesterone for day 21 was 33.5 I am still trying to find out what that means! The nurse didn't really now, but she thinks it means ovulation was likely.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rachelsea Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2008 at 9:31am
Good luck Nefertiti! I can definately see the positive in your test, I hope this month you get a BFP *and* no AF!!
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blighted ovum and chemical are different.. chemical is when you were pregnant but m/c and then had AF around the same time as usual.. blighted ovum is where there is an empty gestational sac.. so blighted ovum often isnt found till later on ... where as chemical pregnancy the mc happens before AF was due.... (and as far as i know this is often due to baby not attaching well )but as you say it depends what you read. !
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I can't see the faint line but everything else you say sounds like it could have been an early miscarriage. Usually you would have had a definite hormonal drop (AKA baby blues) about 3-5 days after you started the tissuey bleeding. Not just being upset at AF but crying at the drop of a hat etc as well. Did you have anything like that?
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Not from memory busymum. But I didn't have that when I had a confirmed miscarriage about 9 years ago. I knew it was a m/c as had to have a scan and night in hospital. But I know I didn't have the 'baby blues' as was just reading my diary yesterday from that time.
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