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    Posted: 26 May 2008 at 3:33pm
Is anyone out there NOT getting their baby (or had their children already) vaccinated or having/had the Vit K injection.

I've been reading all about it and call me a conspiracy theorist, but the whole idea of vaccinations etc frightens the bejeezus out of me.



   
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Spencer didn't have the Vit K and so far he has none of the vaccinations.
However had his birth been traumatic we would have given him the vit K one.

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i seriously considered both but decided for the Vit K in the end and as he had a traumatic birth he would have needed it anyway.. i read some quite good research mostly for but a little against.. as far as vaccines..yes it's a hard one i found all research to be biased one way or the other:( nothing really with just the facts.. (in the end we did both)

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We did both for Daniel though we spaced out his menzb as i didn't want him getting too many vaccinations at once. We needed to have Vit K no matter what the birth was like because theres a big history of bleeding disorders on DH's side. Better to be safe than sorry was the way I looked at it.
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Yes to both. Vitamin K coz I didn't see any reason NOT to have it, it's been around since we were babies so there were no issues for me re: it's safety.

As for immunisation, my kids are immunised, and whilst I believe everyone has the right to their own opinions, if it were up to me, immunisation would be compulsory. I used to be a bit more ambiguous about it, as in I had my kids done because it seemed the common sense option, but didn't really have an opinion either way.

However I recently attended a media briefing on vaccines and it included a section on the history of disease, immunisation and the eradication of disease, as well as a medical section on how immunisations actually work and challenges to the myths that surround immunisation (eg. MMR/autism link). I came home and did some more research of my own and I can't for the life of me understand why people would choose not to vaccinate their children.

But as I said, this is purely my opinion, I respect other's right to their opinion and beliefs, and I have no criticism of people who choose not to immunise, it's just as I said, I don't understand it.

ETA: I thought I should clarify that this is my own, personal opinion. At OHbaby! our official position is to bring all the relevant info to parents to let them make their own decision so we aren't pro or anti immunisation as such, but more pro educated decision making.

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maya i agree with you ..we were never not going to give the normal vaccines.. just looked into the MENZB one before we gave it to him.. a lot of the research says the diseases are coming back due to immunisation rates:( My Mum was suprised to know that we had an option to say no..
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I can't believe anyone would support them being compulsory, what an intrusion on peoples rights.

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In Australia it used to be that you had a choice whether or not to immunise, but your child couldn't start school without being immunised, which effectively meant you didn't *really* have a choice. I can't imagine they get away with that these days.

I must admit that knowing what I know now about the MenzB imm, I would probably still have given it to my kids, but I do feel that we as a general public were grossly misled re: how successful it was, and what the long term plans for it were.
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I'm not going to argue..I'm all for pro choice..so i can see it both ways but I've also sadly seen what happens if unvaccinated children get things like measles:( and that was what did it for me..
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i chose not to give my kids vit k at birth. If you do decide this do be firm in your decision and the reasons why. I had a pair of midwifes effectively brow beat into giving it to my third baby and they wouldnt stop until i said ok - but i only agreed to the oral knowing that i wouldnt be giving any further doses of it.   I'm not sure if it was given or not tho cause the mw in the op theatre told hubby they hadnt but it was put in her notes that they did!

as to immunisations we delayed them here by a week or two, which is another option i suppose. The same stands with them tho too... do your research and get both sides of the story and make an informed decision.

there is a scary element to vaccinations and every time i get the kids done i stress about what might possibly happen... and did seriously debate the MMR for the boys

oh and dont confuse vit K with immunisations, they are two diff things.

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Funny you had so much trouble we just told my midwife and then on the day of the c/s I told the hospital m/w (my lmc didn't come in for the c/s) and she just wrote it in massive letters on one of the forms so that everyone knew. We did ask them to get the paed to talk to us if she thought that there was a reason to do it but she was happy that he was fine and didn't need it.

And yep Vit K and immunisations are two totally different things.

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We did both with Leah and will do both again with the new bub too.

But it is a personal thing and if you choose not to thats your choice and stand by it the same as you would if you choose to do it.


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All 3 of my kids had the Vitamin K.  All 3 of my kids have been immunised. All 3 kids are healthy and happy. 

I'm not going to get into the discussion about whether or not you should immunise. I have my reasons as do people who don't immunise. 

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I have a very strong opinion about this having had a cousin who died from meningitis, but basically I believe that you need to make the right choice for you and your child based on academic research (not just any old website that google brings up) so you can make the best decision possible.

Jack got Vit K and has had all his injections so far. I believe that those who don't immunise rely on those of us that do to weed out epidemics, hence why some campaigns fail as they need a certain % of the population to get it in order for it to be effective.

Anyway, that's just what I believe. I also think that if non-immunised children get sick at schools they should not be allowed back until they're well as they don't have the right immunity to deal with what other kids may have when they're sick already, and they can catch things easily then pass it on to immunised kids. But that's just my opinion, and like Maya said, I try not to criticise people that don't vaccinate, but I don't understand it at all (from first-hand experience with my cousin).
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I have been immunised for everything including MENZB and I also have vit K, It did no harm to me so I thought it was the right thing to do for my kids.

I was worried about the MENZB so I waited until I completed the course before I had my kids done incase I had a reaction to it. I felt the pros out weighed the cons so it was the best choice for our family.

However after having my 2nd MMR as a kids I ended up with rebella, I'm not sure if this was coincedence or not but I was glad I had MMR as it helped me fight this off quickly.

I took chloe for her 5yr immunisations yesterday and it is an awful feeling putting our kids through the pain of it but while I was holding her still as she screamed and cried I told myself, as tears filled my eyes, that this could save her from dealing with a lot worse in the future.

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Oooh yeah, the 4/5 year ones are the worst coz they are so aware of what is going on
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Hannah had Vit K and is immunised, but we didn't give her MENZB.

Personal choice, and as Bizzy has said, stand by your decision. Don't let someone else make those choices for you.
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My son  had the Vit K as he had a traumatic birth being born a month early and then after 12 hours of labour was born by an emergency caesarean. He had all his vaccines on time. After he had rhe 15 month jabs he was a completely different child and was diagnosed with autism, We haven't given him his 4/5 year jabs as we are in two minds about it all. I read somewhere on the net that you shouldn't vaccinate an austistic child so it has put me right off as we don't know what it will do to him. He is at school now and is a completely healthy child that hardly ever gets sick.

We are expecting #2 and I just don't know what to do as I want to immunised my child but on the other hand I am so against it.

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I think I've made my decision, but I'm still so anxious about it.

I've decided not to have Baby vaccinated immediately, I'm waiting until his/her immune system has matured and then reassessing my decision.

I just know I'll blame myself if I vaccinate and things go wrong, just as I will by not vaccinating if baby gets sick.

I'm going to have a lot of opposition from my family.

Just wondering if anyone else out there has decided NOT to vaccinate?

   
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When it came to us not immunising against MENZB we got a LOT of flack from people - including the nurses that were admistering her other imms.

Like you, I wanted to do it to protect her, but at the same time I had my doubts about the vaccine.
DH was against it, so in the end I went with his choice.
It took me a good three weeks to square away my feelings of "what if..." before I felt happy enough to deal with things if, God forbid, she ever gets sick.


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