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    Posted: 18 July 2008 at 6:39pm
Did anyone just see the report on TV3 news about the reborn dolls? Life-like doll babies which can have a heartbeat and their chests can rise and fall mimicking breathing. They've been used in resthomes and for women who've suffered miscarriages and stillbirths who suffer aching arms syndrome.

Emergency services have been called out to rescue one out of a car!
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Yeah saw it. I think they would scare me to death to be honest. They looked so real


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Yeah i saw that in the herald today ! crazy , they do look very life like though

Queensland police smashed a car's window to get to one, then found it was a reborn doll ...
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Also they said they can make them like like the baby a mum has lost. Hmmm wouldnt that effect the grieving process the mum and family have to go thru if they have this real life doll looking like the dead baby?? Just a thought


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Yeah they give me the heebie jeebies a bit, just because they are so real looking!
I can see how they would be beneficial though.
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I think they're creepy. I can admire that they are a work of art and incredibly lifelike, but it gives me the shudders.
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I've seen dolls used in resthomes and it's quite therapeutic for some residents. I'd never heard of aching arms before but it makes sense that that would happen.

Having a heartbeat and simulating breathing is the bit that I find odd.
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I think it's different seeing them in person, they look creepier in photos [:P

I actually have one of these dolls, bought as Z's "present from the baby" when I was pregnant. I got it from a friend of mine who does Rosebud Reborns and it was specially made to be toddler-tough(er) than otherwise. But Z LOVES it - far more than her other (completely unrealistic) doll - likes to have her reborn (which she just calls 'baby' ) tucked up in bed with her and will usually sleep with her arms around it - very cute!

I know they're not for everyone... but they are wonderful for others.
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Originally posted by ellen ellen wrote:

I've seen dolls used in resthomes and it's quite therapeutic for some residents. I'd never heard of aching arms before but it makes sense that that would happen.

Having a heartbeat and simulating breathing is the bit that I find odd.


Not all reborns have that - in fact most in NZ don't. But, talking in theory here, how is it any weirder than a baby (doll that is!) which pees and cries? Other than the fact that society has come to accept one because it's pushed out by major marketing campaigns, and not the other?

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Originally posted by Kels Kels wrote:

Also they said they can make them like like the baby a mum has lost. Hmmm wouldnt that effect the grieving process the mum and family have to go thru if they have this real life doll looking like the dead baby?? Just a thought



I agree, I don't like the idea of using them therapeutically. I'm not a grief expert, but it seems so counter-productive.
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There was a programme in the Uk about this, some women buy them prams and carseats and treat them like real babies. You can buy ones hooked up like in neonatal units as well. Very creepy in opinion.

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KiwiWonder can you tell me how to copy your post in my reply?

I hadn't really thought about crying and peeing dolls - they don't creep me out. I'm not sure why I find the heartbeat and breathing odd apart from that they look so realistic as well? And you're probably right about the mass marketing normalising them.

But then I have a "thing" about hearing heartbeats or having my pulse taken so that doesn't help.
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I think they re fine....for children. as an adult I think we are beyond dolls. I'm sure if I (god forbid) had a stillborn child, a doll is not going to be able to "replace" him or her.
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I think because life is always linked to heatbeats and breathing oppose to eating and drinking so  a doll with those life like skills like having a heart beat and breathing sounds are really freaky.


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I think each to his own, but I don't think having one would have been healthy for me after my m/c, it would probably have sent me off the deep end.

But for people who are more psychologically balanced than me...
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In terms of grief management, everyone grieves differently, and I don't think it's helpful to say 'yes that's "good grieving"' or 'no, that's not how it's done'. I would never, ever, buy one FOR someone who's grieving a lost baby - BUT neither would I ever say that a person shouldn't get one, themselves, IYKWIM?

With my MC I seriously considered getting a doll done (for myself as opposed to Z's one) but in the end I didn't want to hang on to it in quite that way ;-) But I think if I'd had a stillborn it would have been different - tho of course I can't say for sure, God willing I won't have to. BUT it certainly wouldn't have been a 'replacement' - more like an in-home memorial (similar to how people keep urns with the ashes... tho that creeps me out more than the dolls ever did!)

Grief is a very very personal thing.... and *everyone* deals with it differently.
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Originally posted by lizzle lizzle wrote:

I think they re fine....for children. as an adult I think we are beyond dolls. I'm sure if I (god forbid) had a stillborn child, a doll is not going to be able to "replace" him or her.


That's only cause when little girls grow up, the become women and then mothers so we replace the dolls we had with the real thing.

Men on the other hand never seem to grow out of their toys.

I can see the benefit of these dolls, but personally I do find them a little creepy.

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Reborns are not creepy at all! I have 3 kids, 12 , 10 and 2. My oldest is getting a reborn soon and my partner is fine with that ( my youngest's mum ).
Look boy have model cars and planes, and some dolls poo and cry, so what's wrong with a reborn ?
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Each to there own I say, I couldn't care less if people chose to have a reborn doll. Everyone grieves differently, everyone lives differently. There are far more creepy things in this world that's for sure
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i also saw that that was sad and surprising too about reborn baby dolls. https://www.facebook.com/rebornbabydolls1/
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