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    Posted: 22 July 2008 at 9:19pm
I need some help, our lounge is FREEZING and I've always used a gas heater but this winter the gremlins are running around and I worry they'll burn themselves or set fire to the house with it.
So what are the alternatives? I know I could get a guard for it but to be honest I've always been a bit iffy about gas anyway.
I'm thinking a big oil fin heater, a friend has one and it seems to work well, but our lounge is huge, so not sure if it will be strong enough? I run small oil heaters in the girls bedrooms and the gremlins have touched them enough to know they are hot without burning themselves.
Or a convection heater? Is that a risk with the kids, can they burn themselves?
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We have a 9 fin oil fin heater and it does a fab job of heating our open plan lounge/dining/kitchen which would be slightly bigger than your lounge. Our power bill has very rarely been over $200 despite us usuing it every evening for a few months of the year.
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what about on of those new econoair heaters - think thats what they are called...

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Where do they come from?

I hate to think what this months power bill will be with running the heater 24-7 in Chiara's room and 12 hours overnight in the gremlins. But it is what it is, I'd rather fork out than freeze.
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Yeah gas heaters can cause alot of moisture which then cools down causing damp, mold and even colder issues for your home. Is the house yours?? If so I'd have to recommend installing a heatpump/aircon, they're a dry heat, cheaper to run than firewood for the year, very convenient and safe, and instant heat........but they have a big initial outlay
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Can you ask your LL to put a heat pump in??

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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My landlady is keen, but given that her hubby is too tight to even fix the leaky roof I'm not holding my breath...
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I'd make a case for a heat pump, it could go above the lounge door or the windows and the unit could go at the side of the house.

We used a convection heater in our lounge before we got the heat pump and had it on thermostat, it heated quick and was great for our lounge. I reckon a 2000w convection heater would be fine.
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Um isn't there some government scheme to gamilies who qualify (not sure how to qualify but might be worth looking into, think if you got sickly kids etc) that they insulate homes properly? Porper insulation makes a huge huge difference to a homes heat.
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Best heaters for round young kids (have justbeen looking into this ourselves) seem to be oil fin and panel heaters, but the best for heating large rooms are convection ones. We've just got a convection heater for our large lounge/dining/kitchen area, we figure we've got a little while til we have to worry about DD with it as she's not even born yet, and it's hot to the touch at the front (so a kid might touch it and pull away cos of the heat, but unlikely to burn) but the top where the heat rises out of is very hot and if grabbed (eg used as a standing up tool) could probably burn.

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I might look at the convection heaters then and see what I think. They're unlikely to pull up on it, I worry more that they'll trip over and hit the heater and burn themselves.
We qualify for the subsidy scheme coz I get the CDA for the gremlins but even with that the LL would have to fork out around $1K and I just can't see it happening.
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The Warehouse have them for around $70, we've got one in Conor's room, works fine, our other one is a Goldair, and we got that from briscoes.
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 We use a convection heater which warms it up our lounge/kitchen/dining/hall area really good! Then i just use a small oil heater in Briahnas room.

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We've just recently bought a convection heater too.  I got it from the warehouse and it has a digital thermometer and timer and can run at 1000w, 1200w or 2200w and it has a fan function too for when you're heating the room first thing.  It was $70 on special (although they'd mispriced the one I picked and it only cost me $40).  The cost to run is about 30cents per hour.

 

The cheapest form of heating, other than a heatpump, is a wall mounted panel heater.  It costs 5 cent per hour to run and costs $145 to buy from www.econo-heat.co.nz.



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Convection heaters are good for instant heat especially ones that have a thermostat as they regulate the temperature

Oil heaters are good for warming smaller areas but not if you want it warm right now.. so good for putting in a bedroom etc


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BTW I hate hate hate oil fin heaters... especially around toddlers, they're very very very dangerous!!!

My nephew was 2yo when he managed to tip his over, falling on top of it with his fingers on the underside.  The top of 3 of his fingers on his right hand were chopped off by one of the fins when it landed. 

Luckily the heater was off at the time so he didn't get any burns to match.

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I have 2 goldair heaters and they are brilliant, one is in the lounge and heats up our kitchen, lounge and dinning room really fast, the other is on our wall in the hall way to take the chill out of the air when we go to bed. The one in the hall gets put on when Lycan is having his shower and stays on till we go to bed and the one in the lounge gets turned on and off through out the night. Both mine come from Briscoes

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We have a DeLonghi convection heater for our living room and it heats up the room fast, even with the really high ceilings we have in that part of the house. It also has a couple of built in safety features, makes a cricket-type chirping sound if it is moved while still on, also switches it off if it's tipped over.

For Alyssa's room we use an oil fin heater with thermostat.
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Jo - I am always nervous about oil fins heaters tipping over. The one we have in Olis room has rounded fins (IYKWIM), but still figure it would be pretty heavy if it fell on him. We have convection heaters in our lounge and our bedroom, they are good for warming up the space quickly. Ours are hot to touch, but I dont think that they would actually burn...he would get a shock and maybe a red mark, but dont think they would burn as such. Still...we have put the one in the lounge behind a table to make it harder for him to get to!

 

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I would definitely approach your landlord, or start looking for somewhere else to rent that has better heating. Maybe if you explain to your landlord its a problem cos you have young kids and you may have to move they might get onto it.

We have a heat pump in the hallway and a log burner in the lounge.
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