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    Posted: 02 September 2008 at 4:10pm
hi sorry i have to do another rant!!
thanks for all your help last time
well was happening now is that my partners saing that he loves me less because im not going to turn muslim which hurt me and telling me that hedoesint wanna be with me because of the way i live... anyways we got bac on track for a while and then just last night on the phone he sai hes going to joina gym wich is ine with m bt all i sid was could you please not spend to much time there because uare hardly here as it is..... and suddenly he went off his nut becuse i appt said it in a bad way!! and was just emotional from taking car off mila alone the night before where she wouldint slep till 3am!! and he whole week coz he went out 3 times in a row with mates e doesint get it at all what i have to do evry day (he even asked why the houe is a mess and wht do i o all day!!!) anyways then he said you know eva scnce ive been spending more time wit you im getting crap grades!! how the hell is that my fult i dont stop him studying he dnt live with us he hs plent of ime to study. then every time i said somthing he said in a imature voice oh ok miss boss and then i said im not gong to be treated this way and he said yeah coz ur a queen!!!! then i was so upseat and said i don wana be with him any more and hanged up, but today he keeps clling and askingabou mila and then goes and i said that i dint men it and y didint he fight for me but he just says that he want space. my question is does this show he doesint love m cozhes not fighting for me at all and the fact that he keeps calling to talk to mila just feels like hes rubbing it in my face ( i dont mind that hes caling for mila but 5 times alrady today??)
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I say count your loses and move on! Just my opinion but its not worth all the stress. You are basically a single mum at the mo anyway so really what is going to change?

As for the ringing - just suggest he rings once a day to talk to you daughter and maybe set the time with him and leave it at that until he sorts himself out.

Just my opinion but big hugs to you.
       
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I think he needs to do some growing up and I think you need to move on and start a new life with Mila. It's quite obvious to me that he has no idea what he wants from you or your relationship (if you can even call it that).

Do you love him?

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Hunny...havnt you heard any thing I said to you last time?? I am sorry if I am going to come across like a Biatch now but SNAP OUT OF IT!!
I dont know how old he is but man he sounds like a 10 year old!

He is not phoning you 5 times because he wants to talk to Mila, he is phoning you because he wants to see how you would react? and if you would say Sorry to him....because again he is the MAN!!

Honestly he loves you less because you are not going to become Muslim for him?? Oh man if some one said that to me..... He would have been quickly deported to LALA Land.

Again I am telling you that he is playing emotional blackmail with you.....Sit down and think. He has no power over you now and he treats you this way! what would he do if you turned the good Muslim Wife and was under his control? I think this is emotional abuse far worse than physical!

He isnt going to change in a hurry as he still sitting under his Mum's pettycoat and it looks like it will be a while that before he come out of under there!

I think you guys should call it quits......but again its upto you....have you talk to him about Councelling??

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I have to agree with Roskana there. Cut your losses now and don't let him try and do that to you.

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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Originally posted by chonni chonni wrote:


well was happening now is that my partners saing that he loves me less because ...


Totally with Roksana here. As you've asked for our advice, there is no way to say this politely, and I'm not sorry if it's taken badly because it needs to be said, but based on your posts both now and previous, it's time to wake up and smell the roses. This isn't a loving relationship, but a controlling one. While you continue to be his doormat, he's going to continue to walk over you (with the complete support of his family judging from your earlier posts on this subject). You need to be strong enough to stand up to this boy child (in no way could you call him a man), both for the sake of your own happiness and your child. What you do about it is entirely your decision, and you know there are plenty of people here to support you doing the best thing for the both of you. You must know in your own heart and mind what the right decision is, but it's finding the strength in yourself that is your real problem.

BTW, I inserted your quote because conditional love is not love at all. How would you feel if you heard him say to your child "daddy doesn't love you because xyz". What it's doing is turning his problem into yours, and it will eventually become your child's problem if you let it continue.
ETA Too damned right you're a queen - as a human being you deserve to be treated with love and respect and if this person can't see that, then don't lower yourself to his level.

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Everyones already said exactly what i would say ...count your losses and start the life you and your daughter deserve.


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Yeah darling- sorry but I have to agree with the others    Hes just playing games and messing with your head- it seems rather obvious hes not invested in your relationship and you need to count your losses.    

I know thats totally not what you want to hear but the sooner you start to move on and get over this screwed up relationship the better it will be for you and Mila. You need to show her how to have healthy, equal relationships- not manipulative toxic ones.
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I really think you ought to see if he will go to relationship counselling with you. If you don't have the $$ for it, go to a Family Court and they can refer you for free. I think you both have a lot to learn about each other (I mean that in a nice way) if you are going to make it in relationship. It sounds like you have nothing to lose by trying it out! If he won't go, go alone!
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first off - I agree with ROksana too...

second - girl your text language is really really hard to read....
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I have to agree...he doesnt sound worth your time or your love and he is just playing mind games with you which is emotional abuse. do you really want Mila growing up thinking its ok to be treated like this by a man....
Dont waste anymore time with him...move on and find someone who will love you for who you are
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Originally posted by Bombshell Bombshell wrote:



second - girl your text language is really really hard to read....


lol its my laptop it dosint type in some letters lol.

thanks for all your help i know what i need to do and i think its already over he still hasint called me about us just keeps calling about mila. and he said hes coming to see her today . h hs said that he will see her twice a week and wim at work he will take her to his mums i said that he should just look after her alone at mine but he then said that im selfish. i just dont really trust his familly i mean once he tells then we arnt togther, and theway they look after her is not the way i would ever do it. i went out last night to get my mind off of it while my mum looked after her. im just hoping i have the strenght when he comes back and says he wnt be like that anymore (and he will he alays says that to me) that i wont go back to him. and im worried what will happen to mila if he goes to court to take her im not ready to give up my baby two times a week shes mine and ive brought her up
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I agree with the others.

You now need to take charge of the situation and don't let him give you the run around. You need to keep things stable for Mila, so I would be setting times that he can ring, and times that he can see her. Its not mean....its necessary for your girl to have routine.
Good luck with whatever you do.
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I agree with the others.

But I do have one comment about what you just said about them not doing things the way that you do. Neither my mum nor my MIL do things the way that I would. But that is ok so long as she is being taken care of
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I think Bombshell knows would know what to do about your worries regarding him taking you to court , perhaps you should PM her and she can tell you all your rights .

There is plenty i want to say about this man Chonni, and none of it nice...but you obviously still love him despite what hes done ,so out of respect for your feelings, i wont ....just remember, love isnt supposed to hurt, and you are hurting .


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I guess I am not as nice as Kelly so I am just telling you how it is Chonni...sorry if it is hurtful.

I have a fairly good idea of what your future hold for you with him.....because I am familiar with his background both caltural and religious.

Yes he will say he will change etc because in a sick twisted way he needs you! Why? because as much as he wants to be in his own culture you gave him a chance to be different and a chance to be free from the cultural chains....however he will never have the guts to stand up to his parents...I can stake my life to that....so you and Mila will never come first.

As for them looking after her differently...yes they will because they are different but not to say BAD!

As for Court....I dont know the law well (BOMBSHELL is a Lawyer so you can ask her)...but from general knowledge I know that all kids stay with Mum untill they are 12 and father has the visitation rights. Unless they can prove that you abuse Mila they cant take her away from you. But dont quote me on that.

I think given his history of amount of time he spends with her I dont see how courts will think he will be a good guardian....??

Be strong....or you will never be happy (and neither will Mila).

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First of all Holy MOLY Roksana you are 26 weeks already!!!!!!


Secondly im with the others this guy isn't worth the hassle you need to step back and look at what is happening.... this is in no way a normal relationship! Love is unconditional, anything else is just control and from control comes a miserble life... which by the sounds of things is exactly what you have, so do you want to live like this for the next 50 or so years? Time to move on or get help.


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Originally posted by Roksana Roksana wrote:

I guess I am not as nice as Kelly so I am just telling you how it is Chonni...sorry if it is hurtful.

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*sigh * few are, tis hard being so kind ....

I will say this tho, hes nothing but a bully , he is abusing you emoitionally , and is showing all signs of bully type behaviour .
Your self esteem is probably quite low now hun , but you can and WILL do better


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Kelly Kelly Kelly....LOL

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Originally posted by Roksana Roksana wrote:


I have a fairly good idea of what your future hold for you with him.....because I am familiar with his background both caltural and religious.

but from general knowledge I know that all kids stay with Mum untill they are 12 and father has the visitation rights. .


talk about forcing me to log in...

Ok im with Roksana on the cultural thing...I see similar every day and 99% of the time it doesnt work I am afraid...esp starting from where you are already!

Second - OMG ROksana Im gonna tutor you up one day soon....

So not listen to her. There is no age of 12 etc etc....OMG people dont watch so much american tv ok!

PM me CHonni (and anyone else if you need a hand) and we will talk.
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