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MummyFreckle 
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 3:32pm |
Can someone explain to me why some people get to see both Plunket and Karitane nurses? 2 of my friends with babies the same age as Oli, both have regular visits with a Karitane nurse (I should add that they both live really close to me as well...) but I have never seen one or ever been told about them.
Am I missing out on something I should be getting?
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 3:34pm |
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Perhaps call your Plunket?
I thought it was normal to have monthly Karitane visits? So you should be getting them...
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 3:46pm |
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I was confused by this at first too Sam. What happens with our local Plunket is that we see the Plunket nurse every 2nd time & the Karitane nurse the other time. Does that make sense? From memory I've seen the K nurse 3x. The first time she came to my house & the rest of the times she's given a talk/video session to a small group of Mums with similarly aged bubs. She doesn't appear do individual check-ups etc.
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 3:46pm |
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Monthly!
I find it weird too as have never been offered a Karitane visit. There are 7 of us in our plunket coffee group and 5 have had karitane vists and 2 of us (me being one of them) haven't.
They got a Karitane appt between there 5 month and 8/9 month check with Plunket and have all made an appt for one at 11/12 months with the Karitane nurse so before the next plunket check at 13 months.
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 3:47pm |
We don't have karitane visits either. Daniel has a plunket appt next week but the last appt with anyone was 6 months ago! 
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 3:47pm |
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For Keira I have only ever had to Keratine visits. I really dont understand the difference?
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 3:50pm |
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I'm not entirely sure of the difference either but I don't think K nurses are as highly trained as P nurses.
I remember being at the Family Centre ages ago & I asked to weigh & measure Liam & the K nurse said she couldn't really help me work out his length on those baby-measuring devices because she wasn't "allowed" (I can't remember her exact words but you get the idea).
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 3:51pm |
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 3:58pm |
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Yeah because Plunket do a 8-9 month check and then a 13 month check so if you had your appt dead on 8 months and your next appt is at the end of 13 months then it would be 6 months!
That will be what ours is too.
Shouldn't they really all be the same since its a nation wide thing!
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 4:00pm |
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Hey for my curiosity - what is a Karitane nurse?
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 4:00pm |
Very true Peanut. My 5am start is beginning to catch up on me 
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 4:10pm |
We have both Karitane and Plunket visits. My first Karitane visit was an individual one at my home and now the visit is a "coffe group" type visit with babies all the same age and we each chat to the Kartiane nurse as a group and of couse we can ask questions and we bounce ideas off each other.
I asked why we have both and the Karitane nurse said that Karitane looks after the nutrition side of things, eg gives advice on when to start solids and what food you should be offering the different stages. She also told me that they are NOT registered nurses and do not have the same qualifications as a Plunket nurse.
Correct me if I am wrong please, but I am just going off what she told me when I asked!
I am the only one in my coffee group of 8 people that have been lucky enough to be allocated a Karitane nurse, some of the girls are not even lucky enough to see Plunket at all
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 4:14pm |
we had both upto james was 2 i,m still not sure why i lkied my karatane nurse much ,more 
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 4:15pm |
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Yeah he last saw them at 9 months and he will be going for his 15 month check next week.. so 6 months. I could have taken him into the family centre to weigh him in between but I didn't see the point, hes growing
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 4:20pm |
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Peachy, that sounds right to me. My Plunket nurse referred to the K Nurse as a "community health worker" - maybe more like a nurse assistant with lots of practical experience, but not formal nursing training.
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 5:33pm |
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We have seen a Karitane nurse twice in the past....I understand the difference between karitane and plunket nurse is that PLUNKET are registered nurses and they do the milestone checks, and you only see a Karitane nurse in between those milestone checks IF you are having any feeding or sleeping issues that you wish to discuss....
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 6:50pm |
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Peachy, that sounds right to me. My Plunket nurse referred to the K Nurse as a "community health worker" - maybe more like a nurse assistant with lots of practical experience, but not formal nursing training. |
Yep that is right Karitane workers arent nurses at all. They are community worker who work with plunket nurses. Plunket nurses have set time frames and appt to see families. These are caled core visits, then the Karitane workers can do "additional" visits that families are entitled too. The amount of visits you are entitled to depends on, what deprivation area you live in, If you are a first time parent. As a baby gets older the plunket nurse is contracted to see them less eg, 5mth, 9mth, 15mth. I book my Karitane to visit inbetween times. If I feel that the family need more input from me I will book the additional appt with me as a Karitane health worker has no clinical experience to deal with some things.
I have a karitane health worker and a Kaiawhina worker which is the same as a Karitane worker jsut a different title and she sees all the maori families in the ares. She does see other cultures too but she is predominately for maori.
Sorry I did try to simplify it for you all. I hope you arent all confused now lol
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 6:52pm |
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Karitane Nurses also have a different training to what I had in my day, when I trained as a karitane nurse in Auckland where we are having a karitane reunion at Labour weekend we spent 12 months of training in the hospital in various wards, a prem unit, a general ward, a toddlers ward, a mothercraft unit, the babies in the prem, general and toddlers ward were there usually for sleeping or feeding issues to be fixed up without their mothers and the mums in the mothercraft unit were there with there babies to sort out similar issues as they were generally breastfeeding.
after the 12 months in the hospital we did four months in peoples homes
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 7:22pm |
I am the only one in my coffee group of 8 people that have been lucky enough to be allocated a Karitane nurse, some of the girls are not even lucky enough to see Plunket at all [/QUOTE]
They can't see a Plunket nurse ???- I thought that EVERYONE was entitled and encouraged to see Plunket. When I had Amy I almost had the impression that it was compulsory - I didn't grow up in NZ so i had never really heard much about Plunket before I became a mum!!
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 7:31pm |
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The only time I've ever seen a Karitane nurse is when I've been to Family Centre, but I've got one coming to see me in a few weeks just to weigh lil miss in between Plunket visits. Apparent't Family Centre aren't running drop-in weigh days anymore due to funding cutbacks so the only way to get bubs weighed in between visits is by the Karitane nurse. That's what my Plunket nurse told me, I have no idea how accurate it is. Sounds ridiculous coz drop in weighs don't take long and you don't even really need help with them most of the time.
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