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    Posted: 07 October 2008 at 8:29pm
So i am now well into my 4th night of major sleep issues, Ali has been waking EVERY hour or 2 for a feed. I know she doesnt actually need it and i try to settle her without offering it but after 10 mins of fussing i give in and she acts like she is starving!
Im going cross eyed typing this im so tired
Its not as though i can sleep in the day with a SUPER active toddler that has conveniently decided to drop his day nap this week and DP works.
I am going to try a dream feed tonight and hope that helps.
Any tips would be great or just someone else going through this that wants a rant too.
All my friends have either told me to give up breastfeeding because formula makes them sleep or just to let them cry. Easy for them to say, they dont have the sleep issues or the toddler sleeping in the next room!
I dont know what to do now, all my energy is taken up during the day and at night i dont even remember getting up and putting her in bed with me and feeding her! how bads that.
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i'm pretty sure eden went thru a hungry waking period about then too.   i suppose all you can do is make sure you get to bed early and ride it out. formula may not necessarily make her sleep thru and may cause other problems.

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I agree with Bizzy - in my experience, formula doesn't make them sleep! The gremlins wanted to be fed 3-hourly 24 hours a day till they were 4 mths and putting them on formula at 10 weeks made no difference.

Could be a slightly delayed 12-week growth spurt, some of the July babies are going thru that atm.

How often is she feeding during the day? Sometimes if you tank them up with feeds every 3-4 hours during the day they won't need feeding as frequently during the night.

The other thing to remember is that habits don't start to form until around 4 1/2 months (or so the sleep experts tell me ) so by feeding her thru this rough patch you're not neccessarily setting yourself up to be doing it for weeks, it could be just that she needs a bit of a boost. In which case you could ditch the 10 mins spent trying to resettle her and just get her straight up, fed and back to bed as quickly as possible so you can get back to sleep yourself.

Oooh and another thought (sorry, random things keep coming into my head!), if she is feeding more frequently than 2-hourly (from start of feed to start of feed) then your breasts don't have time to refill properly so you might find that she's not actually getting full feeds, she's just getting little snacky feeds each time. If you can hold her out to the 2 hour mark then you should have a decent amount to give her. If she's desperately starving before 2 hours is up could you try a bottle of EBM or formula?

That's just my random thoughts. And hey, if all else fails, I'll be thinking of you when I'm up at 2am with my toddler. My baby sleeps well, my almost-two-year old not so much so I totally feel your sleep deprivation pain!
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Poor you! I don't have any tips, but I've been there and just wanted to say hang in there!! It can't last forever...

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In agreeance with the ladies above...

Does Aliana usually sleep right through?

I think it could be a growth spurt. See if you can ride it out a few days.

I would try to stick with BF, formula may not make any difference. Do you let DD empty the breast to get the fatty hind milk? I have always only feed off one side at a time. Means I am lop-sided after the first feed of the day lol but DS gets lots of fatty milk to contribute to his lovely rolls

I also make sure if I have to feed in the night (which is rare these days) that I don't talk to DS, or if I do it is a whisper and he knows it is sleep time.   

If she has been a good sleeper before, then hopefully she will go back to it soon.

Big hugs - I know it is so horrible having no sleep - makes everything 10 times worse


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Lol yea she was a great sleeper before, nearly slept through, just a 5am feed when DH goes to work.
She did it again last night, 5 feeds...
I do feed completely out the one side and then try her on the other side too so she gets nice and full, a tribute to those rolly thighs
I think what Maya said might be true, its a delayed growth spurt with teething thrown into the mix too. She has grown heaps over the last week!
I wont be putting her on formula, i have vowed to go at least a year if i can so i will stick it out.
Im contemplating putting her in her own room so she isnt disturbed by us being so close to her too.
When did you do that?
I was a single mum with Xavier so it was simple to have him in bed until i got over it when he was 8 months and he didnt go into his own room until he was a year.
Thanks everyone for your help. I should make bullet points of them and tape them to my bedside so i can remember them in the middle of the night!
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Michaela went through a feeding frenzy stage at about 4 months old.  I co-slept and fed in my sleep so I don't remember much about the night times but during the day there were times when we were driving somewhere and I had to just pull over, park and climb into the back seat to feed her because she was famished (we were on holiday at the time and it did my head in).  She got over it within a couple of weeks though. 
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I can agree with you on the sleep deprevation. My little boy who normal sleeps with two pit stops was up every two hours. I think they must just go through these stages. Grump.
Will your son still have quiet time in his room. I always make kids I look after have some quiet time for an hour in their room in the afternoon. They don't have to sleep they just have to play quietly while you rest. They soon learn and it is remarable what a difference it make to the both of you.


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My wee man did the same for about 7 weeks straight, from 3 months of age really. Formula defintately didnt make a difference. It didnt seem to be a growth spurt either, I believed it was because he was fussy during the day and not eating enough. I say ride it out, try and get to sleep as early as possible in the evening.
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Hi,

There is a HUGE growth spurt, developmentally and food wise at around 4 months...or for us the 3 months and 4 month one merged together for about 10 weeks of h*ll. Once it was over though, the sleeping got better again (not that he was great before) and more than a year later he is still bf and unlike DS1 never had a drop of formula.

Alot of babies tend to "wake up" at around this age, they realise that there is a great big world out there that needs exploring and everything is much more interesting than feeding or sleeping. Alex was incredibly distractible and even now he is practically imposible to feed in public as he is just too nosy.

If you feed to the cues, your supply will adjust accordingly, your breasts are never truly empty and any time that bubs spends there is boosting supply, even if you think you have nothing left. We had to fetch Alex back into our bed at the 4 month mark because he was feeding roughly every 90 minutes and no one was getting any sleep otherwise.

I agree with the other ladies though, formula made no difference to how long DS1 slept or how often he wanted feeding.

See here for info on growth spurts.

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