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    Posted: 23 July 2006 at 9:26pm
well Ive been wondering how to say all this.Im just going to let it all out.I made a really bad mistake telling aimee about my sis reading the posts of oh baby.I could have hadled the situation so much differently without anyone getting hurt.because of what I did heaps of people are angry and hurt.And Im real sad and deserve that.I have hurt and embarasd my sister when it was the last thing she needed.Now I have absolutely ruined our relationship and there is no way to ever make her understand how very sorry I am.She just doesnt want to no anyway cause I have actually never realy been a great sis to her in the past.It sux too because I have now made it impossibe for my kids to have a relationship with her too.Guilt is the worst feeling ever and I have spent the last few days and nights crying and torturing myself about how I let her down.Its not going to make her forgive me but Im finally going to stand up
Caleb 15/11/02 Brooke 14/11/05
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for her..(something I should have done many times for her in the past)she innocently went onto oh baby to do some stuff for me and had a little nosie at how it all worked. and yes she came accross some stuff that aimee had written about them.this happend on a day when she was already stressed out and down.well she was hurt and angry and embarrassed.I would be too I guess..Aimee I really dont think she would have gone to Daniel about it all.I cant believe I ever thought she would really.And she has been very stressed out about the whole owing you $ thing.Its too late for me to make things right with her now cause she has given up on me now(funny and sad how you realize how much you take for granted when youv lost it)So if there is any advice I can give to anyone who may find themselves in the position I was in please think about it very seriously..all the outcomes your actions can have.and dont just try and save your own arse(cause when it comes down to it thats what I did I did at my sisters expense)Aimee please dont blame yourself for ANY of this cause its all my own stupid fault
Caleb 15/11/02 Brooke 14/11/05
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Aww Roxy it sounds like a horrible vicous little circle that has happened but try not to beat yourself up about it, i know its easier said than done but as you have said your sister isnt in the best way at the moment so maybe when things have calmed down you can repair your relationship with her. Also and I dont really know the full story so could be wrong but didnt your sister print some stuff off? Even if she was really down she didnt help the situation and possible could have just gone to you or Aimee without the threat of interferrig in Aimees marriage/relationship, there really isnt an excuse for that. I may have that all wrong but I certainly dont think you have done anything wrong, maybe not handled it the way you wish you had but thats hindsight for you. Big hugs to you!
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Thanks but I dont deserve big hugs.No matter what I should not have let my sis down.Me and her have same dad different mums.dad died bout a wk after he found out her mum was pregs.he would be so gutted if he is looking down at us..the sad thing is she has always looked up to me and has always only desperately wanted me to love her and theres been so many times I have turned my back on her and let her down.dont know why I have been like that to her.Have only really seen it all the last few days and I hate myself for it.if she ever forgives me I know Ill be making alot of changes to the way I treat her but I really seriously doubt she will bother again.and the worst thing is I dont think she wants to come back to this town to live again.Yay...Ive drivin my own sister away from her home.thats a lovely thing to live with.I honestly dont no how to cope with this whole thing.its making me feel sick and Im so tired of crying about it.my little boy Caleb is very confused why I keep crying.if she does come back and we go into her work he will expect to run up to her and give her cuddles.it will be very hard.I think this is one of the biggest lessons I have ever had
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Its hard because we only hear part of the story etc but from what I can see you are taking a lot of responsiblilty for the whole situation when there were at least 3 people involved. Im sure you feel terrible and maybe you have been a horrible sister but dont make yourself sick about it try and figure a way to fix it even if it takes time and dont let it effect Caleb, thats not fair on him.
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I know you are right.it not fair on him.he loves her so much that I feel real sorry for him.and for my sis.sux that by wiping me she has to wipe the kids.maybe time might heal but I too scared to hope realy.she got a big heart but very pigheaded if she makes a decision and wants to stick with it.I dont really know how to stop thinking about it all though.I even dream bout it all
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mayby try to make youself a wee goal that you want cry about it in front of your children for a start but will do something positive with them and that might help during the days.
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Yeah that a good idea.Im being grumpy lots cause havent really been sleeping so think I should go to bed and try to put it all out of my mind.well at least I cant be accused of not caring.god even I didnt know I cared this much.has been big learning experience for me.I dont think I should ever give anyone advice on oh baby....look at the mess I make of my own life...anyway of to bed I go.maybe tomorrow things may not suck quite so bad.........at least my kids are finally over there bugs!!touch wood.that something to be happy about
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Oh Roxy! We asll still love ya!
Now, as an only child (with two step-sisters!), I have never been in this situtation, but what about counselling? would some sort of formal mediation help? or even a good neutral friend who can go between you.
Another thing I used to do, was write a lot of letters. Even if you don't post them, they help you sort out your feelings. You could write your sister a letter, letting her know your feelings and your hope that you can be friends again, etc. maybe that would help.

as for not being an expert so not giving advice - hey I give advice all the time and I know pratcially NOTHING! Look at me giving sisterly advice when I don';t have sisters. a lot of the time, when I ask for advice I just want differnet people's opinion on what they would do, or have done. And i'll take whatever I want from that.
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did a post and the computer loggeed me out . grrr.

wanted to say roxy that you did wrong by giving out your password but now you need to build a bridge and get over it.

aimee knew your sis read the posts cause your sis told her herself when she threatened to "tell" on her, so not your fault. and if your sis wants to take it out on you instead of accepting responsibility for her own actions then you cant blame your self.

you need to look after your kids and not let crap like that affect you in front of the kids...

hope you feel better today...

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Ok Roxy....I dont really know about your relationship with your sister but think for a min....she is a grown up and so are you. She did what she thought was right (even if it wasnt...) at the time and you did the same. Your sister should have never ever talk to Aimee in that manner....to say "oh I am going to tell your hubby about blah blah"...is just pure nasty!!    

We post here every day and there are many posts on here, for her to have found those post would have been a long process, that means she knew what she was looking for and only had nasty intentions. As a person you knew that she did this and you did the right thing and told Aimee....I would do the same. And you might not see it this was now, but you did a favour for your sister, she might have learned from all this that playing tricks like this is will only bring grief in ones life. She was wrong and you are feeling guilty? why?

You will continue being her sister and nothing will ever change that, when she is over from what ever she is going thru, she will come back to you.

My only brother and I had a big disagreement and I firmly believed that he was wrong. He did not see it that way, we did not speak for over 6 months and then one day we just started talking and he was there as soon as my baby was born...it might take time but you will have a relationship with her. Now if she is really pigheaded as you have mentioned then it will be her loss if she does not have a relationship with you and your son.....you have so much to offer.

I dont wanna sound horrible but I honestly dont see why you are feeling so guilty. We all think you were right and we love you for it. But I guess we dont matter.....

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OK, now I feel terrible for advising you to tell Aimee, but to be honest, I still think you did the right thing. Aimee deserved to know what was going on.
I really don't think you can blame yourself for your sister's actions.
I know I don't think someone is a completely bad person for a lapse of judgement when they under money pressure, but there is no denying that she did act in an immature way.
And hate to say it, but her just cutting you off is also an immature thing to do. I really hope she does come round Roxy. Maybe she'll start to appreciate you more as well and it will lead to a much better relationship for the both of you.

Please don't blame yourself for what has happened (it is just one thing in a whole string of events) and give it some time.
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Yes you all do matter.I came here when Brooke was born and I was soooo close to PND.Everyone was so lovely and supportive and gave me great advice....my sis never actually went to aimee and said Im going to show Daniel this stuff.she mentioned doing it to me when she was realy down and angry and I should have realized she would never really do it.but I crapped myself thinking it would all backfire on me if she did and decided to do a tell all to Aimee.I could have simply had a real heart to heart with my lil sis and made her promise to let it all go.I have just about begged forgiveness from her and as far as I can see have done everything I can to try and make it right.she knows I love her and that Im sorry for letting her down but I still have not heard a word from her.(have just been textn and have talked to her mum and husband.)so I guess the ball is in her court now eh.I have felt like everything was my fault but the aimee thing was just the brick that broke the wall.I cant carry guilt for all the problems she been having(altough now Im aware just how bad they were I would like to help with it all.)Just a waiting game I guess and If I do get another chance from her then its going to be a long road getting her trust again and proving that I can be a true loving and supportive sister.(something I realize I have never been).And yes maybe some counselling would be good for us.but think maybe me and her need to learn to communicate better and pour pour our hearts to each other.hope I get the chance.
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ohh roxy dont be so hard on your self you are only human and in no way were your actions ment to be hurtful to your sister or amiee i agree with nikki time will heal as it always does and you will find a way to move on with or without your sis
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P.S. No one here thinks you were acting to just save yourself... it was saving Aimee from having to deal with a really hurtful situation within her own family because of threats made by someone who owed her money.
Again Roxy, not something you should feel bad about!!!

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Dont you dare feel bad nikki!!!!I asked for your advice and then I made the decision.I should have had more loyalty to my sis and at the same time have sorted it so aimee wouldnt get hurt.I hate this kind of thing.hate making people sad.so hope it can get sorted.Just realized....think Im a comfort eater....Oh no......just ate big fat donut and made me feel better for about 2mins......maybe I should move onto the next one and then the next then after awhile Il be so enourmously huge sis might feel sorry for me and give me forgiveness.....ha ha kidding.But yeah yummy food cheers me up for bit......scary.
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I think everyone here can attest to food making them feel better... especially chocolate!

Well, here's hoping your sis comes around soon. I'd hate for you to end up eating yourself into a blimp-like shape.
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I no it easy to judge a situation and person but if any of you knew my sis she is actually a very lovely loving person with a big heart.she gets hurt very easily and then just clams up and is stubborn but most people that no her really really love her.............and yep we all do wrong things sometimes(god knows I have)but as long as we learn from them and dont keep repeating them then should put them in the past.My sis is not a bad person at all.just reacted out of anger and hurt.
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Roxy, I also dont think any one is bad really...but as a grown up you need to make wiser decisions.

Why was your sister hurt by Aimee? Aimee never mentioned who she was, she never mentioned that she was your sister and we had no idea...if she walked right pass me I would have not known who she is right? And Aimee was not wrong, she does owe her money and Aimee has every right to ask for it and also has a right to get pissed off if she does not get it back....

Now imagine if she really did go thru with it then how it would have hurt Aimee......

I only hope that she does get over what ever it is that she is going thru and starts being the lovely person that she is....
I also hope that she understands why you did this and patches things up with you.

I also hope that I did not upset you with my comments, but again I dont feel that you should feel guilty regarding this situation.

Take care

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*weighs in with her two cents worth*

Roxy, chick, stop beatig yourself up. You were a loyal friend to Aimee by telling her what was going to happen. Your sister needs to take some responsibility for her actions too. My feeling is she is shutting you out becasue she feels guilty about the whole thing. She will come back, don't you worry about that.

At the end of the day, it would have been more honest of her to create her own account to have a nosey around. After all, if you gave her your internet banking log in details, you wouldn't expect that she would go home and use them to have a nosey around your accounts. In my opinion (and it is just my opinion), Oh Baby is like a "coffee group" where we all share and vent, and I feel Aimee was valid in venting about her money worries, as we all do from time to time in *real life situations*, and your sister "lurking", to me, is a little like eavesdropping in on a conversation in the coffeegruop when they happent o be sitting near you. Fair play to her, though, she was angry and probaly felt just awful about the money situation, and her reaction was a knee jerk one, like many others would have had.

Anyhow, after all this raving, I just wanted to say, I think you are wonderufl, you were great help to me when I was having probs with Jake sleeping ages ago. Don't beat yourself up. She will come around. Take ccare, and GO THE DONUTS!!!!
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