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    Posted: 30 July 2006 at 11:29am
I have a confession to make. I've been one of those mothers who made it incredibly hard for herslelf by getting my baby used to being rocked to sleep. He is now 8 months old and 11kgs and its just getting a wee bit hard on the old back.    The problem is, i've started trying to do the whole 'let him cry himself to sleep' thing but he just cries and cries and then throws up all over himself and the bed and blankets. Am i doing it wrong? please help, I'm starting to run out of patience, not to mention sheets.

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Maya did (and still does) the throw up thing when she gets herself really wound up.

I never rocked her and she was a dream sleeper till about 6 mths when she lost the plot and started waking all the time. I did the whole "crying herself to sleep" thing, and it did work eventually but it took a lot of persistence (the worst night she screamed for over 2 hours) and a lot of washing!

I used to leave her but listen on the baby monitor so I could hear her and when she vomited I would go in and change the sheet in the dark without making eye contact or speaking to her.

After a week or so she settled right down and was sleeping thru again.
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hmmm, i may have to just try and stick it out. the problem is, when he throws up, he really throws up. then he rubs his face and hair in it so i have to give him a second bath and a second dinner because he's thrown everything up. maybe thats where i'm going wrong.

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I never fed her again after she was sick, I guess I was lucky tho that she wold get up on all fours and rock herself until she was sick so she usually managed to avoid getting it all over her.

It was soooo hard tho, I do feel for you - some nights I would ring PLunketline (I was on my own with her) and they wouldn't let me off the phone until she settled coz they knew I would go in and feed her just to get her to settle if I didn't have someone to talk to to get me thru it.
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that sounds like a good idea. i just dont know how to get around him getting sick all over him. i dont want to put him back to bed with sick in his hair but if i get him up to give him a bath he'll think its great and justy keep doing it.

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Thats true. Maya always loved her bath! Could you maybe just change his PJ's and wipe him down so it's not so much fun for him? I always felt guilty when Maya made herself sick, like I was neglecting her, but Plunket assured me that she was just being a manipulative little monkey coz around 6 mths they start to develop recall memory - ie. they recall that if they cry, they get a response, so they cry to elicit that response on purpose.
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Ellabellame, I can't help but just thought I'd say hi to lend some morale. It can be tough we the wee things sometimes. Talk to your plunket nurse maybe, if she is one of the nice ones, if not, just ignore her. Hope you can sort everything out soon. Just tell yourself "it's just a phase"
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yea i might be able to do that. thanks i've been at my wits end with him, you've really helped.

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argh, i put mikey down for his nap about 1/2 an hour ago and he's still screaming his guts out. on the plus side, there hasn't been any up-chucking yet.

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just thought i'd update and let you know that mikey is now asleep!!! woohoo, he cried for about 45 minutes which wasn't easy but now he's asleep with no vomiting or anything for the first time ever!! thanks again for your help

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okay it is hard... but please dont let your baby and you go thru that if it is not what you want to do....

i would suggest that maybe you put him to bed when he is almost asleep but not fully asleep and maybe some shushing and back rubbing if he stirs.

i havent tried or read it myself but apparently the no cry sleep solution by elizabeth pantley is very good, maybe check it out from the library...

also his sleep patterns will change as he gets older...

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thanks, i will see if they have that book at the library because it really is hard to listen to him cry for so long.

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My DH is much better at putting Alex to sleep than me.....I get so bored rubbing his stomach.

I have found that if I stay in the room Alex knows I'm there so what I do now is as soon as I see the first tired sign....usually rubbing his eyes I put him to bed with his dummy. I then go downstairs. If he doesn't go straight to sleep I wait 5 mns and then go upstairs to give him his dummy again and then put my hand on his tummy and gently rub it. I don't do any eye contact. He will then eventually go to sleep. We find the dummy works really well
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yeah i was going to say making sure you put them to bed before they get over tired helps...so keeping an eye on your child and knowing what their tired signs are helps heaps. i think at 8 mths old i was only ever keeping my boy up for about two/three hours before putting him back to bed. he used to be a good self settler but for some reason it just stopped. now i just feed him to sleep...

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i've started putting mikey to bed and staying with him until he falls asleep but it only seems to work for his daytime naps for some reason, at night he just lies there crying and holding out his arms to be picked up. babies are strange wee things.

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have you tried a nightlight - we have a lamp in ayja's room - just a cheapie touch lamp and we have it on the lowest setting, it just adds a little bit of light for her. we have alot of trouble with her some nights - we got her a baby tad - which has the 6 minutes of classical music... and if we are having a bad night we now have the routine of putting that on, i rock her for the first 2 songs, then put her into bed. although with her yesterday afternoon - we endured an hour and a half or more of her crying (would go and have a wee peak and she was playing with toys as she was crying and rubbing eyes.. little monkey)we eventually got her up cos i thought that there was no way i wanted her to fall asleep after that time or she wouldn't sleep last night... we made her stay up until 6.30 then stuck her to bed... she woke a few times for a feed and some bonjela on her gums, then woke about 11.30 and wouldn't go back to sleep until 1am!!! what a grommet!
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I don't know if this helps but when abby was around the same age I started laying on a mattress on the floor in her room until she was asleep. That way she could see me and I knew she was okay. She would still cry, sometimes for over 1/2 an hour but after two weeks with the crying times getting smaller she started going down on her own and I could just put her into bed and leave. When I laid on the floor I would just pretend to be asleep. She went from waking several times duringthe night (Which I think was because she never knew where she was as I was usually holding her when she fell asleep) to sleeping through the night. Now at 18 months we have never looked back.
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