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    Posted: 15 September 2006 at 11:17am
OK... just been searching the topics on eczema but I'm lazy (and meant to be doing school work) so thought I'd just start up a new one instead.

Han's eczema has flared up HEAPS recently. It is really bad on one wrist, a slight dry and red patch behind one knee, and the other wrist just has a slight dry patch.

This morning she woke up and had blood everywhere from scratching her wrist, and now it is weeping and obviously very painful for the little tyke.

I don't really know what has caused the flare-up, but we are using crap washing powder (damn my stingy flatmates) and she has recently developed a fascination with soap... so I've asked creche to stop using soap when washing her hands, gone back to bathing in just water, starting dosing her up with flax seed oil this morning, and will change my washing powder. Am also going to lay off eggs and tomatoes for a while (which she absolutely loves ) to see if that has any effect.

So... (that was a very long winded way of asking) what washing powders are suitable for eczema prone skin? Should I just use persil sensitive, or go for something like Ecostore (keeping in mind that I don't have a whooooole lotta money).
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I use Amolin Sensitive, it never used to be available in NZ so I used to bring it back from Oz every time I went there, the customs guys thought I was nuts arriving back every time with 10 or so litres of washing liquid.

I tried the Persil Sensitive liquid (prefer liquids as the powders seem to leave a residue that makes Maya itchy regardless of whether they are sensitive ones or not) but couldn't stand the smell (it's a pregnancy thing ).

The Amolin isn't too expensive, around $5 a bottle, and to start with I used to wash Maya's clothes separately and use the cheaper stuff for my clothes, but now I just chuck them all in together. And use the cheap crappy stuff for Willie's grotty work clothes...

I've also started using the new Huggies Sensitive bath liquid and it seems to be OK for Maya. The Johnsons gave her eczema and I've never been game enough to try anything else except plain water and sorbolene cream.

That said, Maya is still pretty patchy atm, and I buggered if I know what's causing it.
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My sister was prone to eczema when she was little, and soap and washing powder were triggers for her. Mum and Dad used Persil with no problems, put Pinetarsal (sp?) in her bath to draw out the itching, and would put hydrocortersone (sp?) on her morning and night.

Surely it would be worth trying the Persil and see if it makes a difference before going to something as expensive as Ecostore.
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Yeah I might go with the Persil.

Thanks for your quick responses! Knew I could rely on you guys

I have a little sample of the huggies sensitive stuff and it seems pretty good... might give that a go instead of the johnsons (which i have cut out anyway). Her hair tends to get a bit oily after not washing it for 2 weeks
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Poor Hannah!

I use Persil Sensitive which seems to work, and is regularly on special at the supermarket. Like you, I am not using soaps, just water at bath time, followed by aqueous cream which keeps Jasmines skin moisturised. Clothing wise I only have cotton against her skin. If it does flare up badly I use Hydrocortisone cream 1%, which you need to get a prescription for, but is not that strong but gets rid of it quickly. I have also used Papaw ointment which works for some, but hasn't worked for Jaz.

I hope you find some relief for Han soon, must be really sore.


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LOL I remember picking up the scripts for Kathrine (my sister) some days... my parents would get Pinetarsal and Hydrocortisone on perscription in bulk - Pinetarsal in 1 litre containers, and the cream in 500ml bottles! Made for a big package from the chemist!
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ok I use sunlight soap as in the cakes grated yep it is a hassle to do, but it is realy good a LAan has had no real problem's with his skin scince and it is way cheaper I just put it through my blender it has a grater bit to it.
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Hrmmmm... I have 1% hydrocortisone stuff (not a cream... more like an ointment) but it doesn't appear to do much to settle it down!!!
I think that may have been because it is being continually irritated by the washing powder and soap... so maybe when I get rid of that stuff properly then it'll have a chance to work.

I might buy some arm sock thingys for her to wear to bed. Saw them the other day at the P&C show
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I prefer Ecostore to Persil Sensitive (thats the greenie in me!) - I think it actually lasts longer, so price wise is about the same. It has a tiny scoop and you dont use anywhere near as much powder per wash.

We had always just used plain water for Han's baths but have recently got soem organic baby bath wash which is lovely. I wouldnt touch any of the bath washes with chemicals in them - even the sensitive ones
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I got some samples of this cream called Cephil (or something like that). I got it from a sample on the internet and it was brilliant for clearing up the dry patches on Taine's tummy. He doesn't get eczema much as a rule, but I remember someone saying Lux Soap flakes are good too Nikki!

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i use persil sencetive for all our cloths and bath james with aqueous crteam for bathing then hrydocortasone and mostriser after make for one slippy bubs but thats what works for james have you tried moist baggages they work aswell as hydrcortsone good luck nikki its not fun when it flares up
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Poor Hannah! I get excema and it's horrible...when I was a kid a great tip we got was to replace soap with aqueous cream in the bath... it is cheap (about $3 for a huge tub) and you wash with that and it keeps up the moisture in your skin which definately helped me heaps -I still swicth back to using it even now when mine flares up...
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awww poor hannah!
we use arqueous cream in the bath instead of soap also and the dr prescribes us lemnis fatty cream which i use as a moisturiser after. if i keep jack moisturised with that every day, he seems to stay under control.
having said that, the warmer weather lately seems to be making it a little worse and he has patches on his knees and behind the knees

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We've noticed Erin getting dry / flaky skin in her armpits and just a little further down under her arms, seems to be able to be controlled with aqueous cream. As for what we wash her stuff with, just Persil Sensitive. Good luck Nikki, I sympathise with Han as I had the most wickedly bad eczema when I first came to NZ and was adjusting to the new climate etc !
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Haha Jax, love the pic with the sunnies!!

Well... I went to the chemist and spent a small fortune.
Bought some QV Flare Up Bath Oil, aqueous cream and a crepe bandage.

Used the bath oil tonight and afterwards I put a whole lotta aqueous cream on the crepe bandage and wrapped up her wrist. I just hope she doesn't pull it off in the night That was under advice from a lady from creche. Hopefully I got the method right! She actually said to dampen the bandage with water too, but I was worried about it being too wet so just went with the cream.

Instead of buying arm socks I just cut the end off one of her millions of lonely socks. She wore it for a while, but when I tried to put it over the bandage she wouldn't let me, so we'll try again tomorrow!!

AND... I bought some EcoStore liquid. It was on special so decided to try that.

Feel very sorted now! Hopefully this stuff works. And thanks for all your suggestions... and sympathy for Han, I'll let her know
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Nikki, my sister was and still is an eszema person. We used cold water surf as the washing powder, from memory - i'll ask mum tomorrow what she actullay used.

Pinetarsinel(sp?) is great, you can buy it now at the chemist, and it takes away the itchiness. We would bathe Andrew's bum in it in the sink when he had really bad nappy rash and it cleared up so quickly.

Also could it be the washing powder at her daycare? Ask them what they use for her bedding if she sleeps there. And also food, quite often eczema can be from food.

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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It only got really bad recently and I think it is a combo of lots of things (most of which I have already mentioned) and because she has quite a bad cold... so immune system low... eczema flaring up etc.

Yeah, I've heard good things about Pinetarsal (or however the heck ya spell it) but the yellow bath water freaks me out! hehe I think the QV bath oil is a similar product.

I'll keep in mind the creche washing powder thing and if it doesn't clear up I'll add it to my list of things to ask about!
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