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    Posted: 17 July 2009 at 5:57pm
Hi,

Does anyone use a private school for their child/ren?
Did you go to a private school?

What do you like/dislike?

Im looking at sending Kylah to a private school.
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I went to a private Catholic primary school and then a private Catholic girls college here in New Plymouth and I completely hated the high school. I started in form 1, and was a weekly boarder (went home for the weekends - my mum commuted to Wellington for work each week) and then was a day student from form 2 until form 4 when I finally managed to leave. I then went to 3 public schools - my favourite of all of them was a small rural school.

I do have to admit though, that in my own opinion, the quality of education that I got at the private schools was far superior to the public schools - not just what they taught, but the attitudes and care given by the teachers. At the public schools, because the rolls were so huge, I was just another number. If I had the option, these girls would go to the same private schools that I did over any of the public schools here in NP, however DH doesn't agree. The private college I went to also had (not sure if it still does) the worst teen pregnancy rate in the Naki - so it definitely has it's cons!!!

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Are all catholic schools private?

Janaya goes to a catholic school, the education there is superb. Im not sure if its private though!

There is a "private" school that we looked at, it was something like $15,000 a year to attend

I went to a catholic school and college, we had a high pregnancy rate there too! The education was great though. I hated how strict it was, it was "no boys, no makeup and skirts under the knee" I dont know if it helped being in a same sex school, once I got to 6th form all I thought about was boys, perhaps if I had attended a normal highschool boys wouldnt have been all I thought about. Guess I'll never know...


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Hmmmm the school im looking at is all girls..

Thanks for your opinions though.
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I went to a private anglican girls school, the education was excellent, and the class sizes small, but they tend to be quite narrow-minded and clique-y. We didn't have a nigh pregnancy rate, which i am surprised about being that sex ed wasn't taught until 6th form, which was too late for a lot of the girls.

Also I'm a christian but the religion that they exposed you to was dry and boring and nearly put me off for life.

In saying that, I think I would send my child to a single sex school at the least because there were a lot less distractions and my grades were so much better in 5th and 6th form (private) than 7th (large public)

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Maya goes to an integrated Catholic primary school (not private but not public, kind of somewhere in the middle) and I love it, it's small, the class sizes are small and the staff are lovely. That said, I do drive her across town to school coz I did't like the local Catholic schools.

I don't know if I'd send her to a private secondary school tho, I went to one and it was awful, worse than awful even. I hated it. Then I went to a state school (I got "asked to leave" the private school) and I loved it and did much better academically. I found the private school environment far too stifling.

Where Maya goes will depend on her, what she wants to do at the time etc.
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The one i want to send Kylah too is way out of my price range at almost three thousand a term!

My second option is a school that doesnt actively teach reading untill year 7!! That puts me off :(
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I went to a private school, from form 2 - 7 we did religious education but was no specific religion (well not to my knowledge) I found it really good education wise and experience wise (in terms of school trips and facilities) but I did find that I was probably a little sheltered! (not many drugs, cultures, fights etc) probably not a bad thing but I did hang around alot with public school kids in 6th and 7th form so got that wider exposure to those other things anyway
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The school I want to sedn James to sounds like Maya's the idea of small classrooms is really appealing to me but doesn't have the private price tag attached to it.




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What school is that Danni?
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Originally posted by Kandice Kandice wrote:

My second option is a school that doesnt actively teach reading untill year 7!! That puts me off :(


Seriously? What school? All schools HAVE to have a reading programme and they're monitored by the ministry. I've never heard of any school in Chch not having an active reading programme until Year 7. That seems nuts.

I went to public schools, I found high school was great for me compared to some of my friends who went to private high school and then didn't know how to interact in 'normal' settings (ie. boy/girl). I think it's just plain odd to go to a single sex school - after all you don't live your life like that, and from birth you are influenced by both males and females so then why would you spend 6+ hours a day in a scenario where all your peers are only one sex? Also, private (usually catholic) girls high schools in Chch have ridiculously high pregnancy rates for people who are meant to be abstaining - because of course you don't get sex ed. But anyway, that's just my opinion.

We're really lucky here in NZ that our education system is pretty damn good.

I'd strongly suggest, if you don't like the schools in your area, use the money you would spend on tuition to move to an area where you do like the schools.

Can I ask what draws you to private school? Is it just knowing about the reading programme thing at the other school? Because I can pretty much guarantee that they teach reading before Year 7
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Sorry i meant age 7.

I just want her to get a good education.
They have smaller classes.

I guess thats it really.
I do need to look at schools around here before i fully decide. Im not againt public school, just looking at all my options i guess.



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Phew 7 is better than Year 7! But still, I'd be surprised if they didn't teach it from day one - it's a requirement and they get monitored for it.

You can look through ERO reports online (www.tki.org.nz is one place to find them) too to see what the school needs to work on etc and what they're doing well.

I hear you on the class sizes! Generally (and very generally, but not so much with the recession as the schools don't have as much extra money from parents) higher decile schools have smaller class sizes as they have more money in the budget to hire an extra teacher than their government allowance.

The good thing is they're really working at keeping NE class sizes down as a nationwide initiative, and reducing class sizes in general over the next few years.

The main things I like in a school (regardless of public/private/integrated) are the range of resources for teachers, parents and children, how transparent the teaching is (ie. you should be able to see written someone their goals or a 'We are learning to...' statement), and the support that the teachers have to better themselves, because I think a happy and supported teacher makes a better teacher, and therefore a better learning environment for the kids.
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wow thats weird about not teaching reading from day 1!!??? Bays school is public and they teach reading from day 1 and he now has a reading level of an 8-9yr old!

We only have 1 private school that i know of around here and we are out of the zone so cant help you much there.
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You get fabulous teachers in private schools, and you get fabulous teachers in public schools - just like you can also get awful teachers in both.

The thing that influences a child's education the most is their teacher, and the quality of teacher has nothing to do with the type of school they're in.... so I'd probably save my $ and pay for uni... but that's just me

In saying that though, if you're not happy with the local school (and I def wouldn't be happy with not actively teaching reading til 7 - I'd question the school about this) you could see if you can get Kylah put down as an out-of-zone for other schools.

Another alternative is it may work out cheaper to move into a different area with better local schools?
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Steiner schools don't start reading until 6 or 7 as they believe a childs brain isn't ready until then. DH went to steiner for primary and he's a pretty good reader so didn't have any impact on him.

My 12 year old niece has applied recently for Cashmere High School she's on the ballot as its a good school but she's out of zone. The other alternative is Avonside.

Both she and her sister go to St Martins and have done really well.

The advantage of a larger city is you have more choice.

If we stay where we are there isn't a lot of choice with schools and only 1 high school which is ok. but not brilliant, it does seem to me that if you want a quality education for your kids you have to pay for it

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Its the Steiner school here that i was referring to about the reading. It even says in their prospectus as well. I think where i am we are zoned for Avonside. But i have years and years to worry about that. Im hoping to be able to buy a house in the area i want her to go to school by the time high school is needed.
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If you want to put her in Steiner you have to enroll know as there waiting lists a very long.

The School I'm talking about is St Bernedettes it's in Hornby we have the choive of 4 primary schools and 1 Highschool.




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I personally wouldn't bother sending my child to a private primary school - I think the education most kids get in state primary schools in Christchurch is pretty good.

Secondary - I would personally see which school my child fits as they all have different "specialty areas". I love single sex schools for boys and DS will def be going to single sex but am more open to co-ed for girls for a variety of reasons. Christchurch's secondary schools are pretty much all on the same level - even the lower decile secondary schools function at the same level as higher deciles. I teach at a decile 9 school and to be honest am unsure if I would send my child there at this stage.

Also I have to disagree with Emz slightly on the teenage pregnancy rate in ChCh. Its not actually the catholic schools that have the highest rate of pregnancy (although they have the highest rate of keeping teen pregs), it is actually our priavte girls schools.

With Primary schools you can get Kylahs name put into a ballot for out of zone schools so that is an option.
       
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Man choosing a school is a tough decision!!

I wish i knew stuff about schools! If i went public i dont even know what school i would choose!! Its all so hard, i mean its her future!

Is this something i have to look at now if i want out of zone? Do they have waiting lists?
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