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    Posted: 05 March 2010 at 2:30pm
Hi Girls

So today i am 34 weeks pregnant, went to a scan today to have a look at bubs kidneys, at my 20 week scan they saw that bubs had some fluid in his kidneys, they said it was mild, went back today for another check up and the fluid is still there, more in one kidney then the other. The lady that did the scan said that we would have to find a pediatrician for bubs as soon as he was born for him to organize bubs to have scans/xrays to have a look at the kidneys. She said she recons he will need to have a scan before he is 6 weeks old.

My questions are:

- How do we find a pediatrician and when and does it cost to have one ?

-Has anyone elses baby had this before and what does it mean and what happens to get rid of it ?

Any information on this would be really appreciated, me and my partner are quite worried about our little Boy

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Your MW should be able to help you with the pead and what it might mean, or at least be able to point you in the right direction for finding out the relevant info.
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I would think you could find one now, so that you can be put on any waiting lists etc? It should be free through the public health system - I think the MW or sonographer can refer you?

My friend found out her boy had cleft palate at the 20 week scan and was immediately put on waiting lists for treatment so he could be seen really soon after his birth.
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Our midwife just reffered us to a hospital Paed. Aiden had a dilated renal pelvis on the 20 week scan. We saw the Paed when he was 2 weeks old, had an Ultra sound scan the same day. The problem had resolved, but he referred us for a follow up scan at 3 months, which we have already recieved the appt for.
You shouldnat have to pay, she should just be able to refer you now to the hospital. You shouldnt have to organise it. I guess it could be different in different areas tho. Here in Gisborne there is only one hospital and no private Paeds anyway!
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My babies kidneys are also slightly dilated and she will get a scan soon after birth, I'm presuming they will just take her away for an ultrasound while I'm still in the hospital after she is born. I've also had kidney problems so its fairly important. The hospital/midwife should refer you.
Kiara is 3 and Teagan is 2, now we're expecting our long awaited 3rd!
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Like the others have said, your midwife will be able to arrange to have a paed present at your baby's birth. He/she will then most likely refer baby for an ultrasound, which will give them a better idea of what is going on.

My Sienna was diagnosed with a dilated right kidney/renal pelvis at 30-something weeks, and the paed at the birth referred her for a scan, which she had to have at 7 days old. They don't generally do it earlier as feeding needs to have been established in order for the urinary system to start working after birth.

From that 7 day scan, they picked up that her kidney was still dilated, and the degree had gone from mild to moderate, so she was referred to a renal surgeon/paediatric nephrologist, who ordered an MCU, which is where they put a catheter in and run dye thru the kidney while taking x-rays to see if there is any urine refluxing back to the kidney. If there is urinary reflux, it can cause kidney damage so it's important to pick it up early. Sienna had her first one when she was about six weeks old. If there is reflux, the first step is usually prophylactic antibiotics to prevent infection.

I won't go into more detail here as kidney reflux varies hugely, and Sienna's was at the extreme end of the scale so I don't want to scare you or make you worry uneccessarily, but if you do want more info, feel free to PM me. Bottom line is that she's now 3 and you wouldn't even know she is a Kidney Kid, other than that she has to take her antibiotics every day. Kidney Kids have some great info on their site that is easy to understand too.
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Thanks Maya- I really appreciate the information It's hard not to worry sometimes Does the Paed have to be present at the birth or is it not neccasiary ? I guess all we can do is wait untill after he is born and then take every day as it comes
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No, they don't have to be actually present at the birth - ours arrived in the 3 min interval between Sienna and Mercedes lol - usually, your midwife will call the on-call paed once bub is delivered and he or she will pop in to see you. Ours visited every day that we were in hospital postnatally too.

I know what you mean about it being hard not to worry - it's part of being a parent . I guess I was lucky with Sienna, my OB and midwife were really laid back about it and kept saying it would resolve itself so they almost had me believing it wasn't a big deal, and even the paed never let on how serious it was. It wasn't till the renal surgeon called me at 6pm on a Friday night after her MCU to tell me he needed to see us ASAP, and then she had surgery a few days later.

The good thing about kidneys is that we have two - Sienna's 'sick' kidney has impaired function, but her 'good' kidney picks up the slack so her overall function is good.

Probably the best advice I've ever been given is:

"DR GOOGLE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND!"

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Hi Bubie. Same thing has happened with my baby -- at the 20 week scan they picked up mild dilation, so had a 32 week scan and this is still showing dilation/fluid around the kidneys.

Apparently, this is really common and the baby will often grow out of it by 1 year old. The reason they scan the baby in the first 6 weeks is that they can get a better look at the baby once it is out of your tummy. My midwife said that she would refer me to a pediatrician when the baby is born. You don't have to pay.

The important thing is to make sure that there aren't any blockages -- they probably would have told you if that is the case. For my baby, it seems to be swallowing and urinating fine, so it is probably just reflux.

The reason pediatricians will keep an eye on this is because once the baby is born, reflux can cause urinary tract infections. This can be fixed with simple antibiotics, but they want to know about this so that (a) you don't have an upset crying baby when you don't have a clue what's wrong; and (b) if you leave a urinary tract infection without treatment, it can cause scarring on the kidneys which can then cause problems.

So I'm pretty relaxed about this -- I have been reassured that it is quite common, the baby will probably grow out of it, and at least we know about it and can keep an eye on it.

Hope this helps you!
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Not scaring you or anything but I was not diagnosed with it as a young kid and never had the UTIs asociated with reflux, when I basically collapsed at 11 they checked me over and I ended up having to have my kidney taken out at age 13 cause of impaired function and it was pushing my blood pressure dangerously high. (It was scarred from reflux)
So its lovely to know that they can actually see it in the womb these days!!! I find that really reassuring.
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my friends newborn daughter has just been diagnosed with severe kidney reflux and she has no idea what it is, but i remembered seeing this so pointed her in the direciton of kidney kids for support
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Hi. My DS had the same thing. He was on antibiotics for the 3 months after birth has had scans and we are waiting to see the paed again and his right kidney was still dilated at his last scan. Our hospital down here has taken care of everything. They run a renal clinic on the last Friday of every month and I always take the opportunity to discuss any other health questions when I go. I see you are from Gore so I don't know if you will be referred down to Kew for the clinics but if you are they have been great. And it hasn't cost us anything except the script for the ABs.

PS. when it was picked up at our 20 week scan we were told that we were the 5th couple that week to have the problem so it is quite common. Try not to panic (I know that is easier said than done!).

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Thanks everyone, this has really helped I hope it does pass in time and goes away

Nicola_1975 , The clinics sound great, atm we are just waiting on getting referred by my midwife to see a Obstetrician down in Invers to discuss if i can birth in Gore or not, then from what my midwife was saying then he will refer me onto a pediatrician. So hopefully i do get the option to attend the clinics as i believe they would be very useful
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