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AuntieSarah
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Topic: Soft cheeses Posted: 04 September 2010 at 7:50pm |
I keep reading posts about people wanting to eat soft cheeses and not being able to because they are pregnant. I thought I'd share what I found the other day on the NZ Food Safety Authority website. I'm sure they've changed their advice on this since last time I was pregnant.
NZFSA wrote:
Soft, pasteurised cheeses (including brie, camembert, blue, ricotta, mozzarella and feta) should generally not be eaten uncooked while you are pregnant. However, if these products are purchased in the manufacturer’s original packaging, they can be eaten in small quantities immediately after opening. Do not reseal cheeses and eat them later, and do not eat if they have been repackaged in a deli or supermarket as they may become contaminated with pathogens. |
So soft cheeses are ok as long as you've just opened it, from its original packaging
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Posted: 04 September 2010 at 9:58pm |
I ate it when pregnant both times, and I could polish off a whole thing of camenbert cheese in a flash lol
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Posted: 04 September 2010 at 10:56pm |
The only time I've eaten camembert has been on pizza. My MW advised me not to eat it fresh and that's what I've gone with. Cooked is ok.
I think also these cheeses are best eaten at room temperature which is a perfect environment for listeria to grow in.
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Posted: 04 September 2010 at 10:57pm |
Its the same with ham, you can eat it from the vaccum packs you get in the supermarket but you have to eat it then and there and you can't eat any of the left overs.
This way I've managed to have a ham and cheese sandwich once during my pregnancy.
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Posted: 05 September 2010 at 7:11am |
Thank you for that. I am going to get some feta today. I am feeling quite excited!
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Posted: 05 September 2010 at 7:54am |
Yup, as long as it's freshly opened and still cold, it should be fine. Have to admit, I have been eating newly-opened vacuum packed ham on quite a few occasions this time around! (mostly hot on a toasted sandwich, but sometimes not!) Same thing with soft cheese.
I was super-anal about eating last pregnancy, so it's really quite nice to enjoy these things every so often
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Shezamumof3
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Posted: 05 September 2010 at 10:21am |
C&J, see I was told by my MW that any cold meat is a no no, even vacuum packed ones.
I was super anal first pregnancy as well, and not so much with my second. I ate the ham at xmas as it was preped and cooked by my nana. I ate it cold.
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Posted: 05 September 2010 at 1:58pm |
I agree Sheza that any cold meat probably carries a risk (afterall, it was vacuum-packed cold meat that caused the hospital-based listeria outbreak a couple of years ago), but I think as long as you're eating it sensibly, and avoiding very high risk foods, then it's ok for an every so often thing!
(I wouldn't have said that first time around, but I'ma bit more relaxed this time around  )
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Shezamumof3
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Posted: 05 September 2010 at 2:00pm |
Yep I agree blondy! I ate it when pregs with Bella  Just when I was first pregnant(baby I m/c'd in july 07) my MW told me no to any cold meat, being a first timer, I went with what she said.
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Posted: 05 September 2010 at 2:23pm |
I've only had ham once and I made it into toasted sandwiches. Having to make it and eat it straight away meant I can only have it at home and I'm not home enough to justify buying it.
I have enjoyed having pizzas though, was able to make a meat lovers with chorizo, kransky sausages and bacon it was heaven. Did the same with chicken, cranberry and camembert.
Pizza has been my fav fast food during pregnancy.
I've even had Subway a few times making sure I order a hot one and get it toasted and gone without the salads. The bbq meatball and pork riblet ones are yummy.
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Posted: 05 September 2010 at 3:06pm |
That pizza sounds so yum C&J!!
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Posted: 05 September 2010 at 5:23pm |
I ate it on pizza (cooked) and also bought from supermarket but in the original packaging and didn't eat it after the one use if there was left overs.
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Posted: 05 September 2010 at 7:28pm |
I would avoid cheese under most circumstances (if you're having a pizza or toasted panini and you're heating it OVER 75c it should be safe)
Soft cheeses such as camembert/brie are "ripened" by leaving to grow mold at room temperature for 10+ days (typically 4-5 weeks) before they are chilled and sold. Besides that the process involves heating the milk to a lukewarm temp - about 40 degrees i think, just over blood temp - which doesnt kill any bacteria, but provides them the perfect environment to live in! Made commercially, the mold is sampled and tested before being released for sale and any/all dairy products inside are pasterised of course, and the mold is typically a form of penicillin.
Hard cheeses (Chedder etc) are better.
Ive been a chef for over 5 years now, and would eat most things - i wouldnt eat deli ham for example, as you don't know who has cut it, when it was cut, how it was chilled etc. I WOULD say that cooking a ham at home, chilling it safely, and using it within 2 days (assuming its stored properly) is no danger.
Sorry, a bit of a rant - i am getting sick of people judgin me for eating 'bad things' during my pregnancy - for example i had smoked salmon the other day and almost had a fight over it. What the woman didnt know is i gutted, salted, smoked the damn thing myself.
My pet hate. Sorry for the long post
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Posted: 05 September 2010 at 7:30pm |
Having said that, just because i'll eat a chilled ham and some smoked salmon please don't assume that its safe for all - i'm not a doctor and i'm not saying it as medical advice!
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Posted: 05 September 2010 at 8:45pm |
Lol Maebee don't worry, it really annoys me when people tell me what to eat too. Actually, people give you all sorts of unwanted advice when you're pregnant.
Yum, I bet your smoked salmon was delicious!
I'm definitely more relaxed about things this time. But last time I still ate cheeses (the advice I posted above is exactly what my midwife told me last time anyway), and if I cooked meat myself I would eat it cold the next day.
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Posted: 05 September 2010 at 9:41pm |
My MW advised me not to have soft cheeses, unless they were cooked ie: on pizza was ok.
In the end it is only 9 months of avoiding these things. I havn't felt too deprived over being banned from the entire deli section of the supermarket, have had to get more creative is all.
Not long to go and I can tuck into what ever I like.
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Posted: 05 September 2010 at 9:53pm |
C&J - that's what I told myself last time, and then ended up being on a dairy, egg and peanut-free diet for about 8 months while BFing
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Posted: 06 September 2010 at 3:35pm |
i just can't wait to have KFC.
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Posted: 06 September 2010 at 4:10pm |
I have had KFC over the last 8 month, naughty naughty.
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Posted: 06 September 2010 at 4:18pm |
I had KFC
Also agree with Blondy, told myself I'd tuck in after baby and turns out I had to avoid a few things because gave DD bad eczema!
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