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catie
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Topic: Hollandaise Posted: 28 March 2008 at 2:21pm |
Just wondering: given that pregnant women aren't meant to eat undercooked eggs, can you eat Hollandaise sauce prepared in a cafe?? I've looked in a couple of recipe books - in one the egg is cooked (after mixed with everything else, in the other it's not (just whisked into melted butter etc).
i.e. Is eggs benny still on the Saturday morning menu? and don't you get sick of asking what's in stuff and asking for things to be left out when out for a meal?
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Posted: 28 March 2008 at 2:29pm |
Nope, I wouldn't go there as it's usually made with raw egg. I've had Eggs benny without the sauce, tho it's not the same!
You can have hollandaise sauce out of a jar tho (ie. from the supermarket) as it has preservatives etc. in it and has been heat treated, so you could always make eggs benny at home?
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Posted: 28 March 2008 at 2:30pm |
Oh and I agree with Jess, a poached egg just aint a poached egg when it's overcooked
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Posted: 28 March 2008 at 2:55pm |
Eggs bene was one of the things I was craving SO bad when I was preggie, but yeah didn't have it cos of the raw egg in the sauce and it wouldn't have been the same without a runny yolk.
DH made me some on our first day at home after Harry was born! On bagels, the best way.... mmmm it was so good... I was looking forward to it for SO long...
Oh and yeah totally I got so sick of asking what's in stuff. At a cafe once I asked if the mayo in the egg and mayo sandwiches had raw egg in it. It did.. the lady was VERY confused that I could have egg but not egg in mayo lol. I had to explain I could have cooked egg, but not raw. I used to go there quite regularly (across the road from work) and once I started showing she clicked and realised that I wasn't just weirdly fussy
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Posted: 28 March 2008 at 3:29pm |
DO NOT RISK IT if you are pregnant!! (Comments from an ex Chef)
It is not just the fact that it has raw egg in in that you need to be careful about.Even in the best of circumstances I would never eat hollandaise sauce unless I knew it had been made within the last half an hour (Stuff bought in jars from the supermarket is a different story as it is prepared differently).
Traditionally hollandaise is made from a warmed emulsion of raw eggs and vinegar to which melted butter is added.
To keep the emulsion (ie to keep the sauce blended and to stop it from splitting) the sauce has to be kept warm at a temperature of between 20 - 40C. Just the right temperature for all those bacteria and food poisioning toxins to flourish. Basic food hygiene standards means that the hollandaise should be used within two hours of making it or be thrown out and a new batch made.
After 10 years of working in the hospitality industry I never came across a place that did this. It's not practical as it can be time consuming to make in the middle of a busy service. The only time during the day they ever made a new lot was if they ran out
I spent a couple of years as an Exec Chef of a small hotel and refused to have hollandaise on my menu for this reason - its too much of a health risk for everyone, not just pregnant woman. Ask for a sauce called Beurre Blanc (White Butter sauce) which is reasonably similar but does not contain any egg
Edited to correct spelling
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Posted: 28 March 2008 at 4:37pm |
Oh dear,..I did have eggs bene complete with hollendaise sauce at a cafe the morning after our wedding, when I was 8 weeks preg. Will know now for next time (if there is one! - baby I mean, not another wedding!!).
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Posted: 30 March 2008 at 5:54pm |
Thanks for your thoughts girls, esp KABJ99 - great to ahve an expert opinion! funnily enough (or not!), there was an item on the radio yesterday about a guy who died a few hours after eating asparagus with sauce in a restaurant - I gather the sauce was hollandaise.
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Posted: 30 March 2008 at 8:31pm |
Kato make a reasonably good hollandaise you can get in the supermarket. Going out for eggs bene is in the top 5 things to do once this baby is out!
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Posted: 31 March 2008 at 3:49pm |
Oh Same....I cant stand cooked through eggs...and I LOVE the Hollandaise sauce you get in the fridge at the supermarket...I wonder what the packet ones are like that Maggi does????? But then still need RUNNY eggs.....
What about Aioli...I am rather impartial to that with chips..YUMMO!
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Posted: 31 March 2008 at 3:54pm |
Again if its bought from the supermarket (stay away from the fresh stuff- buy the standard shelf type of product) it is made differently and the egg content should be okay
Aioli is traditionally made from an emulsion of raw egg, vinegar and oil with garlic added.
You can always buy a shelf type mayonnaise and add crushed garlic to it (also a bit of lemon juice to help the flavour), if they don't have any or your not sure if the 'fresh' product from the deli section is actually safe to eat
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Posted: 31 March 2008 at 7:01pm |
the maggi ones from the packet are yuck. Def not the same! I am sick of scrambled eggs now. I love poached eggs but like the rest of you, they need to be runny  Have started having omelettes when I go out for breakfast now but come August I can't wait to get to my 'local' and have eggs benny!!
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