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    Posted: 10 May 2008 at 8:12pm
Lots of questions today!

I know all kids are different but in general...

1. How active are kids of this age? I see some kids happily sitting in cafes or staying still whilst held. Elle has a high need to be in motion at all times...and in all directions LOL. She is a one child tornado when out and about.

2. Would you say most kids of this age do things such as running away faster when you say stop? Kicking and fighting when you need them to do something they don't want to? Refusing to say please or thank you even though they are fully capable of it?

3. What level of repetitive behaviour would you say is normal? i.e. do your kids of this age have funny noises or things they do a lot each day? Things that seem...odd?

4. When awake at night, and when going to sleep, Elle is soooo noisey and seems to giggle a lot. It is really dark in her room so I have no idea what is funny..it seems strange to me. It's like she has a wild imagination. She makes loud repetitive noises and laughs heaps. Do your kids do this?

Needless to say we have a very willful child on our hands who seems to want to do things 100% her way all the time at the moment and it is hard work :) Rewarding but exhausting!!

Do you find that some days you feel like your almost-2 is out of control???!!



Told you I had LOTS of questions.
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Yes I feel like I am not in control at all,..Isla rules the roost!

Yes to numbers 1 and 2 - Isla is exactly like that! Dont know about the other things sorry! I wouldnt expcet Isla to sit still in a acfe for more than about 4 mins max! We only go places (well one place here) that has a play area,..and even then we dont normally last long cos shes trying to ru out the door again and again!
Isla does all the things in numer 2 too! Our biggest challenge is nappy changing and dressing,..the most annoying thing is she will lie herself down to ne chsnged and lie there perfectly calm and still for he aunty or Nana, or at daycare/...but its a horrible experience for us everytime.
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When my (now just over) 2 yo loses her temper she's diabolical! But most of the time she is actually easier now than she was 5 months ago at Elle's age.

1. How active are kids of this age? I see some kids happily sitting in cafes or staying still whilst held. Elle has a high need to be in motion at all times...and in all directions LOL. She is a one child tornado when out and about. We don't go to cafes. It's not worth it, it is much too stressful. Same for going to visit friends and family without kids - I spend my entire time running around after her and trying to find ways to entertain her. I now always arrange to meet friends at parks, indoor playlands, my house or friends houses if they're equiped for kids - it's so much more relaxing for me that way.

2. Would you say most kids of this age do things such as running away faster when you say stop? Definitely. That's why kiddi harnesses were invented. We got ours in Nov (so she would have been 19mo) and I don't need to use them anymore but for a few months there they were used daily. Kicking and fighting when you need them to do something they don't want to? She still does this sometimes but is a lot better now. I usually remind her what we're going to do once she's done what I want for instance she's a bottle addict so when she kicks and screams when I'm trying to put on her nappy and pj I let her know the sequence "nappy, pyjamas, bottle" and repeat it (or ask her to repeat it for me while I busily dress her Refusing to say please or thank you even though they are fully capable of it? Michaela still doesn't say please

3. What level of repetitive behaviour would you say is normal? i.e. do your kids of this age have funny noises or things they do a lot each day? Things that seem...odd? Ummm, I'm not really sure what you mean. She has plenty of funny noises but I think a lot of it is trying out sounds.

4. When awake at night, and when going to sleep, Elle is soooo noisey and seems to giggle a lot. It is really dark in her room so I have no idea what is funny..it seems strange to me. It's like she has a wild imagination. She makes loud repetitive noises and laughs heaps. Do your kids do this? I'm a very naughty mummy and let Michaela have her bottle when she goes to bed so she's too busy drinking before she dozes off but she certainly does this when she's playing by herself during the day. You're probably right about the imagination, my grandma says that my mum (who's a writer) started making up fictional tales which she would share with her dolls from when she could talk (probably beforehand), it'll be interesting to see whether Elle develops into a wee novelist too. I also think that Elle sounds like a really smart little lady and she may just be processing what's happened throughout the day.

I have a very determined (aka stubborn) toddler too and although she is sometimes a wee monster she is also the most delightful, lovely little lady. I hate using this word but it sounds like Elle is perfectly normal, either that or she and all the other toddlers I know are complete nutcases.

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You know me...always in search of more info and opinions. Each time Elle reaches a new stage it's new for us and I love to get input and ideas from others :) Hence the questions. It would be great to be a fly on the wall in other homes with toddlers sometimes just to see what goes on.
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DD will sit at a table at a cafe with us for about as long as it takes her to down a marshmallow or scoff her fluffy (she likes her treats!). Then it's up, down, over the back of the chairs, wanting to see and meet everyone. I love cafes with play areas, or drawing stuff for kids. Even then it's still hard work!

She's just started testing me with running away - sometimes I think because she's figured out I can't run after her very well at the moment! Definitely has selective hearing already. Kicks and throws tantrums if she doesn't want her nappy changed, not all the time but at least once a day. She says please and thank you a lot when prompted but she was a really early talker (late walker) and I keep getting told she is vocal for her age, so perhaps not a good comparison on that one.

Not sure what is classified as odd. She does stuff that cracks us up and we have no idea where she comes up with most things. She goes through phases doing dumb things like banging her head into things or not looking where she's walking and hurting herself or being completely obsessed with different things in the house.

No noises at night, but she's going through a phase of waking up for no reason and coming into our room and grinning at us until we wake up - it freaks me out every time!
I definitely feel out of control on some days. Every mother I talk to with kids at this age feels the same - we're not alone!
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1. Erin usually only sits still when SHE wants to, ie: when she is hungry, or thirsty, or distracted enough by something directly in front of her. Cafe's aren't usually too bad, but after a few minutes she usually wants to be up and doing for sure.

2. Our chances are about 50/50 I'd say if I want her to stop and do something else when she is busy or exploring, and yes - she often runs away faster as if it's a game! Especially in shops when we have something particular to achieve.

We mostly get the kicking / screaming / fighting related to clothes and getting dressed here too.

Erin knows "how" to say please and thank you etc but this is one of the things I'm not sure she completely understands the context of yet, so I am not too worried. We try to remember to say it as often as possible ourselves in the hope that she will pick up on it that way.

3. Repetition, hmm... I'd probably have to pay a bit more attention to this one to identify exactly what she does often during the day, but I am absolutely sure there are certain things she does multiple times. As for noises, another absolute - she has her own language full of chirps and warbles as well as regular toddler words.

4. Fortunately for us, even if Erin puts up an initial fight, she is usually pretty good at falling asleep within a short-ish timeframe when she is due for bed - unless something is up like teething, illness etc.


Elle sounds like a pretty "normal" toddler to me too (as much as I also dislike that word)... and I can empathise with the amazement at all the new things that come with each stage!
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oh, hun, I have to say just wait till you get to the nearly three part...... you wil be wishing back your nearly two, lolololol.

Its all normal, even the repetitive thing. Jake was so bad, I actually considered taking him to see someone, till my Dr laughed his ass off at me and said NORMAL, WOMAN!!!

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Seb does 1, 2 and 3 - with the exception that he can't say thank-you or please yet.

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Jake was quite content to sit at times - if he had food, but Taine on the other hand....not at all.
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Originally posted by lizzle lizzle wrote:

Jake was quite content to sit at times - if he had food, but Taine on the other hand....not at all.


Maya too: a box of crayons and some paper and she'd be happy for hours. The gremlins can't even sit still at McD's, let alone a cafe. They climb on tables, run away and just make a general nuisance of themselves, altho in their case I do wonder how much of it is that there are two of them, coz when I took Sienna out by herself the other day she was waaaay more settled and "well behaved" (in quotations, coz I don't think they are really naughty even when they do run away, they are just inquisitive).

They don't do the repetitive stuff so much thank God, or I'd probably think they inherited my OCD

And yes, they play in their cots at night, sometimes when Willie gets up for work at 4am he can hear them chattering away. Maya always talked herself to sleep when she was younger too.
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Oh and as for running faster when you say stop, lets just say that one doesn't improve with age!
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Ugh yeah, the 'stop' thing here is useless too.  Ella's constantly on the go and I get a lot of comments like "gosh, she's erm, a very busy one, isn't she?!".  Yes, yes she is.  She doesn't sit to do anything really.  Even as a newborn she didn't want to be cuddled, she wanted to be put on the floor for a play (with my attention) and that was that.  The pleases and thankyous?  Ella is yet to do those but we're trying... and trying.  In fact, we're still trying to get her to say 'ta', though I know she can.  The willfulness?  Ooohhh yes - very strong-minded, but hey, these kids won't succumb to peer pressure so easily 'cause they're too freakin stubborn for it, that's what I'm telling myself.  The repetitive stuff sounds like so many toddlers.  Ella likes to blow raspberries until her top is drenched with spit. 

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Forgot to add before Michaela I had 2 toddlers (I looked after my sisters kids for a couple of years because she had a fractured pelvis, 2 surgeries - one failed - and recovery and rehabilitation). They were (and are) like cheese and chalk.

Elizabeth is cautious, she was an early talker and now (at almost 8) says more words than most adults, she is easily occupied with books, board games and drawing/colouring-in etc while Joshua is a ball of energy. Not to say Elizabeth wasn't active too but she was definitely more like the kids that you referred to that sit happily in cafes while Joshua constantly has ants in his pants (Michaela definitely takes after him).

Both were perfectly good 'average' toddlers and are fantastic kids.
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My almost 20th month old is very very strong willed and determined. He is a shocking hitter if he doesn't get his own way (a new thing for me as his 3 yr old brother didn't hit). He won't sit still in a cafe. No way, not ever. (neither of my boys would, I envy parents whose kids do).
If i open our front gate the little sod is off like a rocket out down the drive (even though I growl at him for it).
He often talks and squeals and laughs to himself at bed in the middle of the night. I figure if he's happy then who cares.
He doesn't do the repetition thing.   But then, he has an older brother to mimic and can already say more words at 20mths than his brother could at 2yrs. My big shock with him was how different he was from his brother. And the stubborn will of the kid! It's his way or look out. Worries me about when he gets older!
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