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Jennz
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Topic: Housing market Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:29pm |
What do you guys think its going to do??
We have a few options- we aren't moving back for just over 2 years but we want to be able to own our own home when we do (pretty much the whole reason we are over here!). We can either- buy a house soonish, rent it out and then move into it when we get back. Buy a house when we get back, buy a section now and build when we get back or buy a section when we get back and build then too.
I hear differing opinions on what people think the market is going to do- either be stable over the next 2 years and then starting to grow again. Slowed growth, but still growing over the next 2 years. Prices dropping over the next 2 years but going back up by about 2010 (we are coming back July 2010). Obviously we want to buy when the market is at its lowest!
We are looking at moving to West Harbour (out west Auckland).
I prefer the idea of buying a section soonish (within the next year) and then building when we get back. DH prefers waiting until we get back before doing anything. We both aren't that keen on buying a house and renting it out. Lots of our family/friends think we should buy now and rent it out (I think thats more to make sure we do come back!). What do you guys reckon?
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mummy_becks
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:33pm |
If you can find the perfect section then I would buy it and start building once you are back.
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:41pm |
Personally i think it will drop as we are looking at buying and there is a lot of people who have brought new places and cant sell their old ones as all the houses we have looked at owners are desperate to sell. I know i have noticed a drop in prices in the south island so we are holding out a bit longer
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:48pm |
Put it this way, we sold our house 3 years ago. We thought we'd rent for awhile and then buy again. We are still renting! We can't afford to buy ANYWHERE in Auckland, even with a good deposit.
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:47pm |
mummy_becks wrote:
If you can find the perfect section then I would buy it and start building once you are back. |
yeah i was going to say this too... or wait till you come back cause unless you have a crystal ball you just never know...
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 12:57am |
Yeah I have noticed the types of houses dropping into our price range even within the last couple of months are getting bigger and nicer!
My worry about waiting is if it climbs up we'll get less for our money- right now (or within the next year hopefully!) we can buy exactly what we want for how much we can afford -at the current interest rates. If we wait until we come back and we miss the boat I will be so gutted! I think I would be more annoyed at waiting and missing out on the type of house we want and having to compromise (eg less bedrooms or living spaces or an older house etc) than I would be if we bought a section now and the price dropped another few percentages over the next year or so.
So if I get my own way,  which I am somewhat prone to do, and we do decide to build- for any of those that have done it, what is it like? Do you recommend it? Any tips? I presume its very stressful and always costs more than you think its going to (well it does on the TV shows anyway  ). Any recommended or unrecommended 'home makers- eg Jenian, Golden Homes, Signature??
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 6:43am |
don't rent out. more trouble than it is worth. my mum rented and got ripped off big time. family on various sides have also rented and been stung. bit hard when you are overseas too. added stresss i say
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 7:08am |
I would also say don't buy a house and rent out, unless you can afford to subsidise the mortgage etc if you need to get one. It's quite rare at the moment to get a rental return to meet your outgoings on the property unless you have a huge deposit and therefore a lower mortgage. Just my thoughts....
And personally, I don't know that the house prices will come back up to the level they have been in the last year, within the next 2 years. The price of everything has gone up which means people are holding off buying because with the high everyday living costs, combined with high interest rates...it's just too tight for a lot of people.
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 8:05am |
I have no advice on the housing market I'm sorry but do have some names of companies to look at if you do decide to build.
- Branderson Homes
- Keith Hay Homes
- Millstone Homes
- Britton Built
- Plateau Residential
These companies do pre-built homes (that's what we're looking at doing) but they can adjust plans to suit.
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 8:13am |
Hi ya
I live in West Harbour - not much moving around here at the moment. Houses seem to sit around with 'for sale' signs out for ages - when we bought here 2 years ago they were going really quickly. It's a fab area and the local primary is excellent. In fact, I'd better go cos Cam has his second school visit today (he's been ready to go since 7.45!!).
Oh, and not too many sections avail around here anymore, it's pretty built up. If I can answer any questions about the area let me know.
Debs
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 8:50am |
The news this morning said that house prices will drop by about 7% by the end of the year and then slowly start climbing again in 2009.
I think this is because of the budget coming out and the above statement was taken from that so who knows....
I say if you find something that is perfect for you go for it as you are buying in a quieter market and if you ever sell the place (which you maynot for 4-5 years) then who know where houses prices will be !
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 8:59am |
With the way the world economy is going at the moment, that fact that we have hit peak oil and the price of oil per barrel has reached over $130, and the world demand is exceeding the supply already, the property market is going to suffer (as is the price and availability of food and other imported items). It's going to be a buyers market - for those who have the money. The average sale price of houses has dropped $20-$30 thousand below the asking prices over the last year, and are set to drop further. However, interest rates are also on the rise, and with the failure of some of the large US banks (where Australia and NZ get their loan money from) those interest rates don't look to be going down anytime soon.
I'd say that if your earning money outside NZ, hold onto it until the NZ dollar drops and your currency rises. Keep watching the property market in the area you want to move to and also keep an eye on the interest rates. I'd also advise against rentals, good tenants are a god send, but bad tenants can be a total nightmare and you can't do much about them once they are in.
Purchasing and existing house or building both have their bad and good points. I'd say purchase something existing though because the costs of building are increasing daily and you'll probably buy a house for a lot less then you could now build that same house - and renovating is much more fun then building.
Ok, that's my twenty dollars worth
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 9:27am |
I say for for the land now and build later... then you have the option of when you head back to NZ you can decide to sell off that land and buy somewhere else (if it works out that you change your mind on where to live) and I believe you'd make money on that land. (Being the property investor that I am  )
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 9:53am |
I'd say buy a house in BLENHEIM and move here
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 9:55am |
I would LOVE to move somewhere like that- but Darryl just can't get the work
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 9:58am |
meh, he can commute...we have an airport
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 1:04pm |
Too add to what TraceyA said. Economists for Westpac and BNZ are suggesting only fixing for 6 months to a year as they believe that by christmas the interest rates should be down to about 8.7%
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 1:21pm |
just watch out with building companies as a few of those have started to go under
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 1:22pm |
I have always wanted to build, but the land around here is so expensive and its very rare to actually find any land to build on. If we built I'd use David Reid Homes, I  their designs.
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Posted: 23 May 2008 at 1:29pm |
I say buy now, there is that prediction out there that housing will drop and then climb again. But who says predictions are always right?!
After seeing my parents build (this was back when I was 10) and the fact that there house still has small things that aren't finished I'd never build (so the house is 13 yrs old) and there is also the hastle of having to get the place landscaped etc which I think lots of people forget about.
And with interest rates at the mo, ours is coming up for renewel and I was going to go with kiwibank being 8.99% but I managed to convince my bnz manager to beat that. So you can try that approach if interest rates worry you.
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