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Topic: Voting for lesser parties? Posted: 19 October 2008 at 11:37am |
Is it worth voting for a "lesser" party? will it be a wasted vote? Or are we better off picking between national or labour?
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Posted: 19 October 2008 at 12:17pm |
I think it is, I always party vote green and for the seat I vote labour. this way the greens have been part of the labour gov.
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Posted: 19 October 2008 at 12:56pm |
I think with MMP it's definitely worth it coz if the smaller parties can crack the 5% or win an electorate seat it gives them a say, and there's always the potential for coalition negotiations with the winning major party.
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Posted: 19 October 2008 at 1:01pm |
I have thought about it with MMP. My only reason is because I want to see Winnie back in Parliment.
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Posted: 19 October 2008 at 1:07pm |
I party voted Greens last time around but was then gutted that they didn't go into coalition with Labour like I thought they would. This time I haven't had a proper look at their policies to see if I want to vote for them. I may just go labour all the way.
I really hope Winnie does not get back in, that guy is an embarassment to this country.
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Posted: 19 October 2008 at 1:33pm |
i love having smaller parties. If each party represents certain sectors in the country, then it makes sense that other minor sectors can get a say in how the country is run.
to add to that - in my family we are againest the maori seats. DH says "how dare they assume Maori can't get in under their own merits" - he finds it patronising (He is maori for those who don't know)
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Posted: 19 October 2008 at 8:33pm |
I have been wondering about this too. Usually there are a few over the 5% threshhold in the polls but this time it really looks like a race of two parties only! I would like to think that voting a seat in of a third party will create a broader dimension of MPs and not just those in power and those in opposition.
But I'm not sure.... how much does it take for an MP to get in on a seat-alone basis? There was a list of MP's in today's paper and I only recognise the two main names  - come on people, we're 3 weeks out from an election and we don't even know what you think, who you are, what you look like!
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Posted: 19 October 2008 at 8:38pm |
Labour guy turned up at my door to chat. seemd nice actually
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Posted: 19 October 2008 at 9:16pm |
Rodney Hide, Jim Anderton, Peter Dunne and Maori Party have shown that its easier to get the minor parties into parliament by winning an electorate seat.
The Greens had a much reduced number in parliament after Jeanette Fitzsimmons lost Coromandel.
I also think in this particular election, its important to use your party vote for the party you want in government.
Last election National got more of the votes than Labour but not enough for a majority, hence Helen Clark got first right to establish a coalition government, as a minority party.
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Posted: 19 October 2008 at 10:18pm |
The Labour Palmy guy is really nice. He was the Massey Students Assoc. president when Massey wanted to raise the fees by 10% he went in for the students and got it down to 5% raise in fees. i think he is good.
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Posted: 19 October 2008 at 11:22pm |
I'm a leftie/democrat/labour type voter but always party vote Green. My Mum gets annoyed as she thinks people like me split the labour vote (ie I would MUCH rather have a labour government in than a national government- but I don't vote for labour) so they are less likely to win. I can see her point but I have to vote with my conscience.
I personally think politics is basically fame for ugly people- I think very few politicians actually get into or wind up staying in politics because they want to make our country better. I do, however, believe that out of all the political parties the Greens are more likely to be there for the greater good. I don't necessarily agree with all their policies but I like their ethos and the idea of having them in parliament to be the reigning governments conscience.
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Posted: 20 October 2008 at 8:14am |
I agree with what you say, Jen.
I have given my party vote to Greens in the past, but I think this year, it might be a wasted vote. I want to be able to either complain or celebrate when the decision is made between National and Labour. And besides, I dislike our Labour candidate so I don't want to give my vote to him! In actual fact, I don't know anyone running for our electorate this time around. Seriously, what do they do?! They're not pro-active in the slightest.
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Posted: 20 October 2008 at 9:17am |
Yes and no, the minor parties do have their place in parliament however I don't think that a governments ability to rule or otherwise should come down to who they can form a deal with. I would say that if you firmly want a Labour or National led government then you should vote for one of them, if you are not so bothered and would prefer that the minorty party you support has a stronger showing then vote for them.
I also do not think that there should be separate maori seats, we are one nation ffs! There are plenty of eductated Maori who would get in on their own merits.
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Posted: 20 October 2008 at 3:12pm |
Ditto summerrlamb re small parties.
I am a big fan of having the Greens and Maori party in (I think the rest are a waste of time) but I don't think they should decide the next government. I want to see a change in govt so will vote National, but if I was happy with Labour, then I might be more likely to vote for a smaller party that would support Labour in a coalition/agreement.
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Posted: 20 October 2008 at 3:37pm |
While i have no problems with minor parties overall i don't like the fact that they hold the country to ransom to get their way. i.e. a small party will vote with a major party if you make this policy law.
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