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    Posted: 20 March 2009 at 11:51am
Argh....

I have a birthday party here tonight, just a few of my close friends.
I have two friends that Im not really sure I should bother with anymore... but we have been friends since primary and it will be almost impossible "not" to be there friend. They are close by and I see them a lot. Our kids are also friends with each other.

Anyway, Friend A texted on Monday to say she'd "Be there!" and she'd see me friday. Friend A said the same thing when it was Janayas birthday party, and never turned up and reckoned her phone was flat (Even though I called it and it rang) I texted her yesterday to ask if she was still coming and no reply. I assume she will do the same as she did last time, pretend she never got my message and then claim her phone has been flat for a week (A work one?)

Friend B- I only hear from her when she's bored at home with her baby. She doesnt have a car and likes me driving her around everywhere. DH told me I needed to stop that, and see if she makes the effort to come and see me for once, which she did a few times. We saw each other 2 weeks ago and have been texting as well. I sent her an invite, and also texted her this week asking her whats happening, and no reply.

The thing is, now its at the point where if I text again, Im going to be "stalkerish". To be honest I really dont care if they come or not, I have other friends etc etc. But I am just so sick of being a really good friend to these people and getting to the point where I think I want to say something just to subtly let them know that I'm not happy?
I just dont know what to do!!!! I just cant stand being friends with people when you can never really trust their exuses and such?

Would you say something?
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If they didn't show up after being invited saying they would be there, I would say something next time they contacted you (even if it were to apologise) to say that you feel you are just their friend when it suits them.

Im just assuming this happens quite often with these 2 friends, it would annoy me if it happened all the time. Unless of course they have a genuine excuse and do make the time at a different stage.

Not sure if that helps hahaha


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I'm going through a similar thing at the moment. I've tried 3 times to organise get togethers. The first time, she didn't get back to me. The second, we organised a get together and she never showed up, and now trying for the third time, she hasn't replied to my texts despite her texting me first!

I appreciate that our lives are busy but a courtesy text would be nice to say 'sorry, can't make it today' so we didn't have to sit at home waiting for her NOT to turn up! We could've been doing much better things with the time wasted on that.

I'm not making any more effort. It's just not being returned and it drives me insane! I'm unlikely to say anything though. Things are quite normal when we do eventually catch up so I thought maybe it's just me being hormonal and stubborn LOL.

If I were you, if the next texts will be verging on stalkerish, then I wouldn't send any. They've been given ample time to reply and you've tried to contact them in various ways so it's up to them now. I would see if they turned up tonight, and if they don't, then I'd send them a text either tomorrow or Sunday some time saying something like 'sorry you missed the party on Friday, it was a good night! Maybe next time'.
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If they can't make it to your party after saying they would be there - a REAL friend would ring you and let you know they can't make it.  Giving an excuse that their battery is flat is pathetic being that there isn't just one phone on this planet.  If they don't contact you after you'd text them, then they do turn up tonight,  I would say something like "oh I wasn't sure if you were coming, you didn't reply to my text". 

 

Honestly, I just give up on "friends" like that now.  I figure if they really care about our friendship they would make more of an effort.  I have 2 friends over the past couple of years I've stopped trying with, because there was just nothing there. 

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Oh and I hope you have a great time tonight, and that the people that really matter are there!
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My other friend said to me this morning "If you can count your good friends with one hand then thats all you need" which is true I guess isnt it.   

I'm a real softy and a pushover which is probably why I get treated like this They would be absolutely flabbergasted if I ever did turn around and told them I wasnt happy.
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It sad when you drift a part but that happens unfortunately. If it was me I would just leave it alone, let them come to you, you have made all the effort the ball is now in their court.
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I have a friend like that whom its always me that seems to do the chasing or texting in her case as she lives in a different city. Anyway while we still keep in contact i no longer go out of my way to remain in contact i let her contact me first now. She tells me i am a very good frined i should think so apart from her partner i was the only friend when her dad died tragically. Basically i got sick of chasing and decided to leave it up to her and let her contact me and if it ends up we don't keep in touch any longer than so be it. while it is sad and it hurt me for a wile with the decision i made she is my only real friend it was a decision i had to make. i just can't be "used" like this. I am woirth more than that. I never hace had any luck with friends.
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Personally I'd be too chicken to say something to them about how annoyed I was, but if you're brave enough then go for it! You could always just ease off inviting either of them to anything - it's really rude to just not turn up or fake an excuse, so sounds like you're better off without the stress of wondering each time if they'll show up or what the excuse will be.

We had friends who I'd begun to see were really just using us, and after they didn't show at my 30th, and soon after my daughter's 1st, I wrote them off for invites full stop, and haven't regretted it.
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I sometimes feel like I'm bothering people by inviting them to things now.
All my good friends now have kids and most of my friends are older than me.
I just can't be bothered anymore. We have more fun with family members who actually want to be there and with our kids. Friends without kids we hardly ever seen anymore.
I'd come to your party but I wasn't invited j/k - but I hope you have a good time anyway, with some real friends!
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Let your actions do the talking and stop making an effort with your two friends. I have a friend like yours and like you I used to get really upset at her lack of effort and lame excuses for basically being pretty selfish and lazy.   After a long time I figured I was wasting my time getting so stressed out by her and just took a step back and stopped making all the effort. We are still friends but when I see her now its on my terms and whether it suits me.   

I think you have to manage your expectations with people like that, its disappointing when you are a good friend to them but some people are just like that.   The thing that does make me laugh is if my friend is let down by anyone its the end of the world and she takes real offense to it!

Enjoy your evening tonight with your friends that are worth the effort!    
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They don't sound like very good "friends" I wouldn't say anything but that's coz I am a big wuss! I would probably just stop inviting them to stuff and not txt for a while.

But enjoy your party tonight!!! My MIL is babysitting tonight so I can go out with my girlfriends so I will have an extra (non alcoholic) cocktail for you
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I'm a beleiver in seasons of friends. Some are freinds for a "season" and soem are freinds for ever, and we do need all of them at soem time.

I've just been through something like this and I'm sick of doing all the running, so I've now just cut people off. I had some friends, a couple who moved away and everytime they are in town, make palns to "catch up" and ALWAYS leave me high and dry. This last time, they didn't even text, and I skipped out of work early to see them and all. I was sooo pissed off. I don't bother making an effort now with peole who can't do the same with me. I don't answer thier texts anymore and just don't bother in general. If they phone I am vague and not really interesed, cos lets face it, they weren't all that bothered when I had to do the running unless they wanted something.

Makes it easier. If they bother to turn up or get in touch, just keep a distance and let THEM do the running for a bit and if they don't turn up or text, don't bother getting in touch with them again, let them come to you.

That said tho, like I said there are seasons of friendship and sometimes they just run their course but because you have been friends for so long or whatever, its out of habit rather than genuine enjoyment. It does hurt, but sometimes we just move in different directions in our lives. Friendship should be pleasure, not a chore.
They will come back for a "season" when they catchup to you.
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A friendship is where there is equal effort from both parties.

I had friends like this as well, I gave up bothering. Why should I make all the effort!

Good friends will phone you up just to chat & also will turn up to things you invite them too. Or they will decline if they can't or don't want to come around.
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I can relate to both sides, I can get completely walked on at times by friends when all i'm trying to do is be a friend. Then at other times I can be really slack. I was meant to try and catch up with a friend I haven't seen for awhile this week, but she doesn't understand that there are a few things going on for me at the moment like A. I am pregnant and B. my dad has been in hospital for the last three weeks and we have just found out that he has chirrosis of the liver so I haven't exactly been the most sociable person in the world and as I don't spend any time with my parner the days that we have had off we have wanted to spend with each other, (sorry kind of think as much as I need friends outside of my partner I at this stage also need to nourish my relationship with him as he is the father of my baby)

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I know a few people like that. I just dont bother with them now. I tell them also....It pee's me of som much when you hear nothing from them then all of a sudden you get this random tex asking what your up2 & if you can pick them up or some other crap, I especially hate the ones that throw out hints that they need a loan or want a ride somewhere, LOL.....Just my personal experience....
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So how'd it go on Friday night, Kaiz?  And did your 2 'friends' turn up?
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Nope! Was not really bothered by it, it just gives me an exuse to ignore THEIR texts next time they want to catch up.
I did get a text from Friend A at 9.30pm saying that her daughter wouldnt stay with her poppa so she wasnt coming, so at least she did text with an exuse!

Also, a good friend of mine left within an hour because apparently she had a karaoke party starting at her house at 8pm that she didnt know anything about. I was so offended when she left! She would NEVER have let me leave her party, in fact on her birthday a few weeks ago she made me stay even though DH was struggling with Jackson at home.

So I am feeling a bit hormonal at the moment. My good friends were there I guess, and I did get spoilt with flowers and cake!!!
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yay for flowers and cake! But man what is it with friends and poor excuses?  My friend knew we would be in Akl for the day yesterday (where she lives) but never invited us to visit, nor suggested she come to see us.  But she hasn't made an effort in soo long I shouldn't be surprised!!  I wish (in a nice way) she would just vanish and that I didn't know her.  Then I'd never have to think about her and wonder why she is/was such a useless friend when I've been nothing but generous to her!

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Is that the same one you had problems with a little while ago?

Yeah Im quite happy they didnt come, I think I might have to start ignoring texts and claiming I have a flat battery or something.

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