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    Posted: 27 May 2009 at 1:31pm
would I fix Amys wind problems? I am finding her unsettledness really hard to deal with - she gets bad lower wind pain, which can have her screaming in pain for hours. I have tried Infacol and didn't think ie made much difference and am now trying Gripe Water, which I thought worked yesterday as we had a good day, but she is not so good again today.

Just wondering if I would solve her wind issues by switching to formula...

I think I really want people to tell me it will get better and to stick with it, but also want to hear your ideas...
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Hugs - that sounds hard!

I'm sure someone's already mentioned it, but have you considered that it could be reflux? Even if she's not terribly spilly, she could have silent reflux. Check out Crying Over Spilt Milk for a list of symptoms and more info.

Kellymom suggests: Aim for frequent breastfeeding, whenever baby cues to feed. These smaller, more frequent feedings can be easier to digest.

Do you have heaps of milk? It could be a foremilk/hindmilk imbalance if so?

As far as I know if you have a windy baby, unless they're reacting to something in your diet (which is less common than you might think), switching to formula won't make a blind bit of difference. (In fact, Kellymom again: Formula feeding tends to cause more gas and digestive upset for most babies because it is not specific to the human baby. Formula-fed babies overall tend to spit up more, be constipated more, have more gas, be more colicky, have more intestinal illnesses, etc. )

You're doing a great job! Breastfeeding is hard work, but try to stick with it as long as you can. It DOES get easier, I promise!

That said, if you're getting exhausted and you really decide that switching to formula would be best for both of you, nobody will judge you The best thing for Amy is a happy mummy!

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I should have also said: I realise you know what you're doing, I didn't mean that to sound patronising at all but I know sometimes I do. Sorry if it came across that way!

Anyhoo I'm not just talking out of a hole in my head. JJ didn't scream for hours like Amy can but I had a forceful letdown which caused gas and fussiness, and after trying a bunch of different positions to help and only feeding from one side at a time for a while to reduce my supply a bit, we got it sorted and now I really enjoy BFing...

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Thahnks weegee - I have been reading that Kellymom stuff everyday - am trying feeding from one side for longer to counteract the fore/hindmilk imbalance thing. I also demand feed, she usually goes about 2hrs between feeds.

I really want to keep going with the feeding, it just seems so unfair that she is so uncomfortable.

Hmm will look into the reflux thing...
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In my experience, Jackson's wind was worse when we switched to bottle feeding, at four months. A lot of people say that breast-fed babies get less wind. Having said that, they make some really good bottles that reduce wind. Jackson still gets wind from the bottles though, and can't go more than about 50mls without needing to burp.

We use Infacol, and I believe it helps, but you have to use it every single feed. I find if I miss a feed, Jackson ends up with some trapped wind, which makes the next feed worse.

Jackson has a long history of feeding problems, and we switched to bottle feeding as he needed extra calories added to his bottles for weight gain catch up. I didn't really have a choice to give up breast feeding, but I still regret doing it. I miss the breast feeding so much and wish I could have continued. If, aside from the wind, you are enjoying the feeding then I would really encourage you to continue. It's a special thing.

A lot of people say wind starts to get better after 3 months, that was certainly my experience too. I found Jackson's wind much easier to get up once he was about 12 weeks. You're pretty close to that time, so maybe you could aim to get that far and then reassess?

Also, have you heard of Sharleen Poole? She does a DVD that has some great ideas for helping with trapped wind. I never got my own copy, but you can often find them on TradeMe. Failing that, the money you save in formula over the next few weeks could be used to buy yourself a new copy to see if any of the ideas help.

Good luck! It's not easy, is it?

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Colic and wind is suppose to be worse when bottle feeding as they swallow more air. I would maybe try adjusting your diet to see if something is upsetting her. Most likely culprit would be dairy as that is the most common allergy so it might be worth cutting right down or cutting out completely and seeing if that makes a difference.

I found out that chocolate annoys Kyle and I am currently on restricted amounts of dairy, i'm just having it in tea/coffee at the moment cos I can't drink them without and I love my tea/coffee! and last week we saw a cranial osteopath and he hasn't screamed of back arched once since, it's quite incredible, so that might be something to look into also.

Good luck and stick with it

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Hugs to you ...have you tried to burp her more often during a feed?

Have you given Colimed a go?

eta: It does get better...all of a sudden they do wicked burps & you are so proud of them.

Oh & don't eat spring rolls.....bad bad bad on the wind!!! both Mummy & bubby

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I found weleda colic powder worked the best for Alex. He still had lower wind issues and so most of the time I still end up needing to 'fart' him a lot    I am finally taking him to see an osteopath next month as I am also hoping it will help our sleep issues but I have heard so much good re seeing an osteo and helping with wind issues so maybe you could give this a go.   I would keep breastfeeding especially as it sounds like thats what you really want too do.

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Hey there

We had problems with lower tummy pain, I wondered about giving up BF but read that wind is worse from the bottle than from the (.)

It ended up that Eva has reflux which gets a million times worse if I have dairy. So I am dairy free and she is on reflux medication and I have found she is soo much better... we never have lower tummy pain anymore.

I think also the wind thing gets easier as they get older, Eva is so much easier to burp now, she brings quite a few burps up on her own without me having to wind her for ages. I think she could give Homer Simpson a run for his money sometimes

The crying over spilt milk website was great for reflux symptoms and the whole dairy thing. I went dairy free for 2 weeks and then ate one meal with dairy and could notice a huge difference within 4 hours.

Good luck!! It really does get eaiser (not that I believed anyone to start with lol).

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i was going to suggest what kel did re burping more often... i know that gabriel used to get wicked bad wind and the only thing that helped him was a teaspoon or two of cooled boiled water...

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I feel your pain!
Jaye was a wind hog. My midwife reccommended that I burp him frequently during a feed as my milk was flowing really fast. This did help but I still had to spend a bit of time after his feed getting the rest up. My fiance was fantastic at that! He would hold Jaye upright and cuddled to his chest quite firmly and do a wee bounce-bounce-dip motion. Worked every time.
I also took him to the osteopath at 8 weeks. It does get better. Hang in there




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During feeds I rest DS on his tummy, on my chest.
It brings up his wind really fast so he can continue to feed.

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Thanks guys, we are just taking everything one day at a time - last night was better, and today hasn't been too bad...

I have the Baby Whisperer DVD, but have never watched it! Will dig it out and have a squiz...

Laurie, am trying the Infacol again today at every feed, will see if that makes a difference over the next few days!

Am feling alot happier today, so thanks for the encouragement!
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