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I'd say its their responsibility Steph .. just stand your ground, although it may be quicker to do it yourself.

Oh and we use a dehumidifier and it works a treat, but only in the room its located.
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It sounds like the problem with mould is greater than a dehumidifier/heat pump could fix?
Not sure about your rights as far as the fixed term goes but just wanted to suggest that you document every point of contact you've had with the agents so far (and going forward) so that if you do want to get out of the contract you have clear evidence. Don't know if you have done so already but I'd be getting in touch with the tenancy tribunal - they should be able to give you plenty of advice.
I really hope it works out for you as it can't be much fun.
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Consumer Link

Just found this article on the consumer website with a couple of phone numbers, perhaps you could call them for advice? I'm not sure who else you can contact. I would assume that since you pointed the issues out to begin with they would fix it up for you, it shouldn't be your responsibility.

ETA: You could also try calling 0800 TENANCY (0800 83 62 62) for the Department of Building and Housing.

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Hmm...yeah I'd have to agree with ellen in terms of the mould being a bigger problem.. Chances are in a place that damp, the mould will be in the walls...so even with "clean" curtains your health can still be effected by the spores in the walls. As we all know, this can make you really sick. I know it was a huge thing to move, but you have to think of your health and wellbeing.

If the owner was too cheap/useless to wash the curtains, I doubt he will fork out for a heat pump! Some landlords just don't give a crap about their tenants as long as the rental income comes in.

This part of the tenancy website looks like it may be of use to you anyway in terms of the steps to take:Sorting out renting problems
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If you pointed it out to the agent and she said it would be sorted then it needs to be done for you. It may be easier for you do it yourself but I'd be looking for some compensation for my time/resources or shave a bit off your rent for that week.

Ringing the tennancy tribunal to find out your rights would be a good start.
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Instead of a heatpump sounds like they should be putting in HRV or DVS to acually dry the house out...then you won't get the mould and dripping windows etc. I would have thought that the landlord or property manager should be responsible for the condition of the house as i'm sure they would expect it to be done when you move out so it should have been done when you moved in.


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I think no matter how much cleaning gets done to the curtains etc its just going to come back. You may have to have a think about whether its worth staying or not with reoccuring mould etc
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Black mould is super bad.....make sure you meantion to the tenancy people you talk to about it. It's dangerous stuff.

Definitely stand your ground. I'd tell them that you want the curtains replaced. I wouldn't put it through your washing machine cause then those spores will be in there as well.
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Yep TBH I don't think a dehumidifier will help much. We have crying windows in our new place (but nothing like the problems you have) and even running our very good dehumidifier most of the day doesn't do much.

You need a proper system and like the other's said with damp that bad it's probably in places you can't see as well.

I think you should ring tenancy tribunal and get some advice - it doesn't sound like the place is habitable.


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She's probably checking if you're on a fixed term because she's thinking you want to leave more likely. She won't know that you can't afford to move.

The fact that you have noted the mouldy curtains on their checklist is a good thing too.

I would still ring the tenancy tribunal and find out what your rights are in case they try to pull a shifty one on you.

And I so hear you on the moving costs - It cost us $2000 all told to move into this place and it's a much colder house than our last one so I'm dreading the power bills.

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Dont have much more to add - but fingers crossed that you get something sorted.
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ring the tenancy tribunal - but I am pretty sure about a fe things. you have the right to write a 10-day letter - which is you basically outlining the problems and giving the landlords 10 days to fix whatever the problems are. You need to document sending this - do NOT email, you need to send directly and keep a copy for yourself - go to the department of housing to find out how to do this.

document all contact with the property manager - write what she said, what you said. keep these in a safe place. if you do decide to break your tenancy agreement, you will need this.

if the landlord doesn't fix your problems - you can go to the tenancy tribunal and get your tenancy broken AND possibly damages - i.e your moving truck and letting fee.

RINg the department of housing NOW to get advice what you need to do - cause breaking the fixed term you will need evidence. You may also want to get a letter from your doctor showing asthma symptoms being caused by mold.
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Aw that sucks and I agree with everyone else cleaning the curtains won't help in the long term. Our house was very bad for weeping windows, I would go round each morning with two towels mopping it all up and we have two heat pumps and good insulation. Our window sills also use to get mouldy and the backs of the curtains in the worst places. The only thing that stopped it was getting a HRV system installed, which honestly I should become a spokesperson for because I just can't get over how good it really is.

I hope your landlord sorts something out for you. I've been in both situations as a renter and as a landlord and unfortunately I know that some landlords suck and properties that are run through property managers seem to be the worse. We were right royally screwed over when we first moved to NZ and we ended up paying for two rentals at once just so we could get out of the first place which isn't a position we should have been put in but thankfully we had some cash to do that otherwise I don't know what we would have done. Since that instance when we rented we always went private and not fixed term, now that we are the landlord we rent privately and not on a fixed term and we try to fix any problems our tenant has as quickly as poss, it makes no sense to piss your tenants off.

Definitely document everything, even if its just so you can break the agreement without any penalties and talk to the tenancy tribunal for advice as well. Citizens advice might be able to help you out too and I would also talk to winz as they might be able to help out (with moving costs if needed) and really the more people you talk to/ask for help the better.

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Sounds like the house is damp, has a serious mould problem that nothing will fix and is probably not insulated.

Ditto ringing the tenancy tribunal.

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Firstly, ick at all the mould! Not good at all...

I guess the thing is... you rent the house as is right? And unless it is written somewhere (and signed by both you and the landlord/PM) that certain issues will be rectified by the landlord prior to you moving in, or by agreement, then you get stuck with what you pay for unfortunately.

As for the windows in the meantime, invest $5 in a squeegie thing (like a window wiper with a catcher). We own our own home and have major issues with condensation (and pay double what you do - ah the joys) so every morning I do the windows and check for mould in the toilet (which never gets heated as is at the back of the house).

No point in letting the windows stay weeping - otherwise you're just paying to evaporate the water, and of course it evaporates into the air and when it gets cool again it turns back into condensation.

Good luck with the property managers though, I would just keep hounding them (and noting every call/letter as well as ringing the tenancy tribunal) and hopefully you can get something resolved.

Would probably pay, if you do stay, to get the carpets cleaned too, as heaps of things can live in there which will trigger asthma esp when cold.
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Originally posted by fallen fallen wrote:

Sounds like the house is damp, has a serious mould problem that nothing will fix and is probably not insulated.

Ditto ringing the tenancy tribunal.


Ditto to this. When I was pregnant we lived in a house that was damp, had leaks in our sitting room roof, and had mould/dampness in our bedroom. We wanted out of the lease but the property manager (seriously I'm convinced rental agencies are the the bastard child of real estate companies) wanted us to find a replacement tenant.
Morally we weren't happy to do this so we went to tenancy tribunal.
We were let out of the lease immediately and were also awarded compensation ($50 for each week we lived there) which we've yet to see.

ETA: We got a builders report done and there was 45% moisture in the wall / carpet in our bedroom. 36%+ is considered high risk / health risk. We slept in the sitting room after that.
And what you have sounds a lot worse


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Oh I agree with emz on the carpet thing! Hire the rug doctor, its SOOOOOO worth the $$, I think its about $30 or $40 for 4 hours...cant remember, but we did the carpets in our hosue before we moved in and the water was black!! The caroets looked and smelt MUCH better once we were done and I felt better about caden crawling and walking over it.

I hope you get it all sorted out soon hun. Oh and definitely get some of that detol spray I told you about, as it will kill some of the mould, so spray it round the windows after u have wiped them and on the walls too and your couches, even the carpet, spray spray srpay!
Its great stuff!!

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