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    Posted: 22 July 2009 at 12:14pm
I just wondered for those who have step kids or who are a step parent how does it work for you guys?

Reason I'm asking is that I've been asked for my opinion on someones situation and I really have no idea..

Her situation is..

She has a daughter aged 4 (not hers by blood but shes her sole guardian as the girls parents died). He has 2 kids from a previous marriage who are about 10.

She has said that he can be whatever he likes to her daughter. Whether that be just a friend or her dad figure, she is not fussed what it is, it's his choice and she isn't at all threatened by him being a parent to her daughter.

She has had a discussion with his ex and his ex has said to her boys that she will be their friend and not take the place of her mum. She's fine with that aspect, she doesn't want to take the place of their mum but she wants to be more than just a "friend" to them in the future. She wants to be his equal and doesn't know if this is right or wrong considering shes letting it be his choice as to what he wants to be to her daughter.

He has 50/50 share of his kids so they are a big part of his life still. She wants to have some say in how they are disiplined when they are living together and issues like that as she wants all 3 kids to be treated the same and shes said they do have slightly differing parenting styles.

I wouldn't have the slightest clue how the whole step kids/parents thing works as I don't really know anyone in that situation so I'm not really sure what to say to her, whether its unreasonable or perfectly reasonable and common that she wants to be a parent to his kids too. That's why I wondered how others situations worked
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Hi,
I have an unofficial stepkid, as I live with her Daddy but we aren't married. She's 5 and we've known each other about a year. She lives with us almost 40% of the time and with her mother and maternal grandmother the remainder.

First up yah for your friend. Step-parenting is really, really difficult mainly because everyone (kids, bioparents, stepparents) are really unsure of the stepparents role. I would add that it is even harder for stepmums than for stepdads due to society's expectations of women as caregivers of children.

I think that rather than getting tied up in 'the not quite a parent' or 'just a friend' debate is to lay down proper boundaries for everyone.

The most important one is that the biological parent does not allow any rude or disrespectful behaviour on the part of the kids towards their step-parent.

IMHO steparents should be treated in the same manner as a teacher, scout leader or sports coach, another words they are an Adult in Charge (AiC). They should be listened to and their instructions should be followed but I think it is important that 'big' decisions about their upbringing should be made by the bio parents.


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My brother is in the same situation as your friends partner. He has 2 children of his own aged 7 and 12 whom he shares custody with their mum.
His current partner has a daughter aged 5, and they've been together 2 plus years, and whom he raises as they live with her.

When my nieces are with their dad he does the disiplining, not his partner as she's not their mum. My nieces see her as their dads partner, certainly not their mum as they live with their mum.

The girls all get on well with each other, and the 2 younger ones are very much like sisters.

I know their mum has had some issues with what M allows my 12 year old niece to wear and what they do when they are at their place. That is something she has sorted out between the mum and dad.

I think they do a great job, unfortunatley the split between my brother and sil wasn't very friendly, and being in different countries has been difficult.

For me I've found it difficult enough understanding my relationship with my step-niece, I don't feel the same attachment to her as my other 2 nieces.

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I'm not a step parent but I am an adult step "kid." I don't particularly like my step mother (long story) but nevertheless I treat her with respect in her house. She is not my mother and I don't "need" that from her but when I stay with my Dad I'm staying in her house too. I think it's reasonable that I respect THEIR "rules" etc when I'm in their home, the same way I would at my Auntie's house.

I don't know if that's helpful or not. I think lemongirl put it well when she said they are an Adult in Charge.

Personally, I think it's great that she is giving her DH the choice of who or what he wants to be to her daughter but they probably need to have a frank discussion about how they think it's all going to work in practice, ie how they expect the kids to behave when they're in their care and then what they will do when they don't behave.

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I am also a child of divorce and had both a step-dad and step-mum growing up from about aged 3.

Unfortunately my step-mother was a nasty piece of work (Dad has since divorced her) and had no respect for us as kids, she treated us and her son completely differently and had different rules. She tried to be the main discipliner while we were at Dad's house and as you can understand this just didn't work at all. We all ended up resented each other and I think we probably played up more because of it.

 

My step-dad on the other hand has been a fantastic father figure in my life. He did minor disciplining if/when we needed it, however, anything major, Mum dealt with it. I have always respected my step-dad and I think it is a lot to do with the fact that he didn't try to be overbearing with us and treated us exactly as he did his own two children.

 

Unfortunately the relationship between step-parents and step-kids can be really difficult and I think only those directly involved can know how it will work for their individual circumstances. But, it is important that the step-parent does have a disciplinary role, without being overpowering. As lemongirl put it - much like a teacher

 
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I forgot to say that the bio parent really needs to step up and be the parent to avoid the step-parent being put in the role of unfair disciplinarian in the eyes of the child. My partner really struggled with discipline and when I first met him actually skited about being a 'zero discipline parent'

Needless to say that meant that his daughter was completly out of control. A few months after meeting me, my partner's daughter hit me with a book because she wanted my attention . Now stepchild or not, I firmly believe that children should not be allowed to hit so without thinking I got my 'teachers voice' out and told her it wasn't ok that she hit me because it hurts. She burst into tears at my firm tone and then daddy came along and picked her up, gave her a big hug, lots of smiles and kept saying how much Daddy loves his princess in order to get her to stop crying.

Needless to say I was really annoyed at the b.f for that. So once she had gone to sleep, I bought up what had actually lead to the scolding and how he had put me in a horrible position in the eyes of the child. All he heard was me growling and her sobbing. So we had a talk about why boundaries are necessary and why he needed to be the one to set and primarily enforce them.

After the discussion, he is far more likely to find out what went down rather than immediately trying to placate the child. Her behaviour has improved dramatically now that Daddy has learned the magic 'N' word and she has worked out tantrums = time out.
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my dh has another son & also my girl has a step mum.
which is ok but there are definate lines that have to be made, i had a good talk to s's step mum ( they dont have her much and her dad hardly says boo to me) and told her what my rules were and basicly i expected her to not be so soft with her and spoil her rotten each time they had her but stick to the rules and bedtimes etc and it has worked out really well.

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I have a daughter from a previous relationship, we have 50/50 custody with her father. I think it is slightly different for us as this has been the situation since my daughter was 10 months old (she is 5 now).
Basically as far as she is concerned, she has two fathers who love and respect her. We have always made it clear to her who her bio father is, but at the same time have made sure that she understands that the father situation is the same for both of them.
For us this works really well, we run a very different household to her bio father, but somehow we just manage to make it work by being open and explanatory with everything.
I know it definitely isnt the easiest situation to be in, but as long as your friend and her partner get on the same wavelength from the beginning in terms of how they want things to work in their household, it should run smoothly If the stepchild sees that the boundaries arent clear, that is when they will start to push them.
Sorry for the novel, I hope it helps!!!
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Mmm I have two step kids that we only get 1 night per fortnight.

DP has parental guilt I think & doesn't really have any rules for them in our house. I think we need rules for them because I expect they will follow the same rules as Aston will as he grows up.

It's hard going as I don't want to be the bad b&%*h all the time, but everything in the house is mine, I worked damn hard for it, & I pay most of the bills so get resentful when DP lets his kids (son in particular) treat the place like crap (i.e. his son carved a cross into my dining room table with a fork & it was left to me to talk to the son about it as DP did nothing)

I agree that bio parent should do disciplining, but other adults should be shown respect (the AIC idea) & that all kids should have the same rules under the same roof. What rules they have at their mums, or their Nanas, it's irrelevant. Kids adapt to having different rules at different places really easily.

Oh, and I never undermine DP in front of kids even if I disagree with him, & I expect (and generally get) the same from him. If there is an issue we discuss it later, but show a united front to the kids.

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My SD is 14 and SS is 18 so they are very independent and I am more of a friend or an 'Adult in Charge' rather than a second mum which suits me fine.

Blending families can be tough and the dynamics are very different depending on the age of the child, how much time they spend with each parent, and where they primarily live.

In my experience kids that live most of the time with a step parent come to treat that person as a parent, especially if they are young when they get together and the other parent isn't around. This will probably be the case for the four year old but not so much for the older ones who have a 50/50 split. It is probably wise for them to be a united front in front of all the children and agree privately on what the rules will be then back each other up.

The hardest part of blending families is when one party decides the children should have consistency at both houses which means you have to adhere to rules that another adult has set. I would suggest each couple agrees to what the rules should be at their own home. This is the only way she can be sure all three are treated the same way, in their home anyway.
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