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    Posted: 28 July 2009 at 6:00pm
random question ....does anyone know anything about the Mental health unit /system at hospitals ?

a family member is in there , hes been diagnosed with psychosis and is still under assessment ...
As much as I don't want to care, (hes caused a lot of hurt over the years due to his drug taking ) I do feel sorry for him , even tho I know its the best place for him ....I don't know I guess im just still in disbelief that its escalated to this , we were very close once ..argh , anyway , my question is , in the mental health ward , do they have people with similar conditions in together , or do they keep more severe cases pretty separate ?
Apparently , hes saying hes scared , its really hard because I know how paranoid he is ....he thought his cell phone was being bugged, but on the other because sometimes when Ive seen him lately , before he went into hospital, he seemed pretty normal , I think how scary it must be if you were "ok " to be in a place like that , sorry , not meaning to offend anyone , im just struggling to find the right words .

Anyway , if anyone has any knowledge of that whole aspect of things, and can give me any info, at all , id be very grateful .
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I dont know a lot, but when I had really bad depression I got taken by the CATT team (I think thats what its called?) and got put in a respite home. I was on constant watch and had a special person watching over me, I shared a house with a few other people. During the day I had to attend a day-unit type thing, there was about 25 other people with mental illnesses in there and it was very very scary for me.

I have no idea what pychosis is, is it quite an extreme form of mental illness? . I probably havent helped at all! But I hope your relative is ok and gets the help he needs.
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Kelly. I don't know how it works sorry but just wanted to say, thinking of you xx
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Thanks Essie

Kaiz, its pretty bad, the traits are paranoia , and an inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality , there are different varying degrees, but those two are traits he has .

I just have to keep telling myself this is the best place for him , and he'll hopefully get the help he needs .


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I *think* there is an OT on here with a mental health background who will be more use than me ...

I have done periodic sessions in MH units (as a therapist!). There is an ICU which is usually for the high risk patients and then a more general 'ward'. Usually patients are free to move around but cannot leave the unit. I can imagine that there will be people in there with a whole range of disorders and even though people are in there cos they are unwell, it will be quite frightening cos many others will have different issues.

I *think* that the way they "divide" the ward is based more on severity/risk of self-harm/harm to others than on the diagnosis per se.
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My BIL is a mental health nurse (IMO he is better off in the ward, but another story), they do seperate as to the situation and depends on the wards and who is in the ward at the time.

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This can be really difficult situations for families and I have always thought there was never enough info provided to them. I have worked in a psych inpatient unit and day services. Generally if there are people who need closer observation to keep them/others safe or to make sure they don't get too distressed, they are placed in the intensive care part of the unit. They have really close obs and higher staffing numbers per person. Apart from that, the units are generally open with the people experienceing a huge variety of different illnesses. 

Psychosis can be a difficult thing for people to see their family going through. People who believe they are being followed or bugged etc get really distressed and do what ever they can to stop/prevent what they believe is happening. It can be scary being around people experiencing psychosis and it can be difficult knowing what to say to them. There are some good antipsychotic medications these days and they have pretty good chance of helping to manage it. Unless people continue to take drugs. (We always wanted to being Tandor into the unit and show him the effects of dope on some people- not flash!).

Anyway, a bit of a ramble and not sure if I have answered all your questions. PM if you want any more info/advise/support. I have had an uncle in a similar position and it was pretty hard.


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Hi Kels,

Been there last year with my brother! Its a scary time so if you need to talk to anyone about it then pm me!

If your family member is at Middlemore then there is a highrisk wing which if you go visit then you walk into one door get that locked behind you empty pockets etc of anything dangerous, nail files, lighters etc and then you can go into the ward. When visiting you are taken into a room and they generally only allow two visitors at a time (how my brother got past that I don't know). My brother was having visions of grandeur, a little bit of psychosis, was quite hyper, his thoughts were racy his own words he didn't stop talking for a good 24hrs. Mum and dad rung me to tell me and put him on the phone to me as he wanted to apologise to me about all the "bad" things him and my other brothers did to me as a kid. (Like I care now!)

I'm not going to lie there are some scary people in there, he had his id bracelet taken from him by another patient and she tried to contact him when he came home, it was treated as very serious by the staff as well. He was scared himself, there was an incident involving another patient in there and he ended up calling home in tears to talk to mum it set him off so bad. Luckily the staff recognised he was better a little bit and transferred him into the other wing which was less secure. You still had seperate rooms to visit in but much less relaxed and lower risk in this wing, mostly young guys they had freedom to roam and watch tv, and bro used to play the piano etc.

Like I said pm me Kells, as we're still dealing with this now, he hasn't been back since the initial visit but he has had lapses and we have had to be very careful what we say around him and to him. He thought that if we spoke in a low voice we were talking about him and he hated this! This is a year after the initial event. My brother too would be very heightened and then would snap back and be very logical it really just depended. His friends found it very hard to see him in there as well and didn't know what to expect.

(on a complete side note, we have a mutual friend irl who doesn't know this stuff as yet as we didn't think to tell her, although we don't keep it a secret)



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and I am his mum and going through all this with Kelly, pyschosis due to drug taking is scary, i wish he'd never got involved in drugs,
I went to see him last night.
His younger special needs sister is worried about him,
He is in the high security ward at the moment. and I know he has said awful things to me and his dad in the past, but we are is parents and still love him.
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Susie and Kelly, must be very scary for you guys regardless of what might have happened in the past.
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I know what it's like, my DP was sectioned due to drug induced psychosis a few years back. Most of the information has already been provided to you by other posters. But I just wanted to let you know that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. My DP is living proof that someone is able to fight this battle and come out the other side. It's a hard struggle but just be there for your family members and support them.







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Susie and Kells its hard, just be there for him, and as hard as it is just listen and be there. That's all we could do with my brother. He started telling us how we were all heroes to him and all this sort of stuff its hard to see the ups and downs. My poor parents have been struggling with this my dad being sick me being pregnant and my older brother due with his first in 6weeks. Plus more.

DP and I are believers that it was the chemical drugs that helped bring this on for him. We found out when he was admitted that he had been doing magic mushrooms two days before he had his first episode. The staff really do care, and if he is lucky enough to get the Dr my brother had he seemed to click with this man then things will be ok. It is a long hard road we are still travelling it and it is far from easy but you never know what will happen. It may only take a week for him to come out of the high security ward as this is how long it took my brother and he was hardwork. High strung and emotional etc.



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who was the Dr your brother had pm me if you can
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awww kelly and family big hug coming your way
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