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    Posted: 15 March 2010 at 4:48pm
Hmm this is bothering me - both my kids quite often had/have temps while teething, which the doc has never been able to explain other than possibly teething.

Well DC rang today (missed the calls and didn't check my phone - funny that I was working!) as Ava had a 38.1-38.4 temp, and anything over 38 they have to be sent home. They have also changed their policy that they can't give pamol for more than 2 days at a time, which means we can't do what the doctor initially said, just keep her drugged up until the next tooth cuts.

i can't miss work - I don't get sick days (relieving) and we aren't even making ends meet until my next pay comes through. What do I do? I can get MIL to cover for one day if need be, but it's not a long term solution. Also, carseats - how exactly could she be picked up unless I gave someone the carseat?

I love their DC and their carers but this sort of bureacracy is pushing me towards in home where they are more leniant.

Ideas from working mums? (Oh and I had her checked at the doc on Tues, all was fine except for teething and reflux, but am taking her back tomorrow arvo just to be sure).
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Don't know about the sending home bit but often Daycares have extra car seats that they can loan out when other family members come to pick up the kids. You could check and see if that's the case.

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Can you ask the daycare if you get a letter from the doc stating its ok to give your kids pamol would that be sufficient?
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That is a difficult one and I really do see both sides of the arguement. It is really hard looking after a sick kid when you have others to look after too, but at the same time it is hard for you to be leaving work all the time.
Does nurofen keep temp down. I ask because it is longer last (8hrs) than pamol and you could get away with giving it before they go and when you pick them up.
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Our dc has carseats that they lend to people who come to pick up the kids who are not their "normal" pick up people.

I cant help on the temp thing, ours will only send them home if they have another symptom as well as a temp, if its just a temp they call to let you know so if you want to get them you can, otherwise they ask if you want them to administer pamol and how much you want them to have.

I guess youd just have to bite the bullet and take time off .. if dc wont let them stay, you cant do much else.
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Originally posted by lilfatty lilfatty wrote:

I cant help on the temp thing, ours will only send them home if they have another symptom as well as a temp, if its just a temp they call to let you know so if you want to get them you can, otherwise they ask if you want them to administer pamol and how much you want them to have.


Same here!

DC will only send a child home if they have other symptoms as well as a temp. Kids quite often have temps with not a lot else going on esp at DC where they tend to run around alot and have the rooms so hot.

Maybe you should look into other DC's I know the chain ones tend to have stricter criteria on temps etc because there policies and procedures are standarised.

Lilfatty, thats great that your DC will let you order pamol over the phone. Mine won't unless you supply the pamol....I quickly learnt to leave a little bottle in his bag
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Our daycare won't give medication unless it's on a sign in sheet, including pamol. So I can only have it on backup at daycare if I sign it in every single day - I can't leave it in their backpacks. So not worth the effort, lol!

You could try giving ibuprofen in the morning before daycare, and then they can give pamol on top of that. If that doesn't control the fever, then maybe she really should be at home.
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I would be talking to the director and asking about the policy - but to be honest, my son has had glandular fever, and with low iron and asthma, tends to get anything that is going around - so when i see parents bringing kids in that are unwell - fever or whatever (actually snotty noses do me in the most), it makes me quite angry cause I know how sick Taine can get. So i kinda get their point.
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i learnt early on to get two bottles of pamol every time I go to doctors....one for home and a special one for daycare....they require a scripted medicine and we sign it in and sign what time it is to be given - they will not give pamol more than once a day!!! they will do it for days in a row but usually ask if it goes on...I leave ours in the fridge at DC as a just in case (and cause i suck at remembering to bring any medicine home - esp on a friday!)

have to say tho - once she hit the middle room at 18 months she didnt get nearly as sick (ignoring the chicken pox outbreak that hit the room and my child got scarlet fever at the same time - instead of the pox!)...truly her immune system seems a LOT better now (*knocks on wood*)
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Interesting the different policies! They don't have extra carseats, nor can we leave pamol there (in bags or the fridge there), and it has to be signed in everyday.

The temps we are talking about are very minimal for Ava, like half a degree out - she runs hot normally. Jack was exactly the same. As soon as I get them home, they don't have a temp - like they're cooking there a bit.

I'm really loathed to change their DC - they love it to bits, the carers are lovely, its 5 mins from work and the best value for money in the area. Guess I'll just have to try and find a casual in-home carer just in case or something
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have to add - we dont have extra car seats at our DC either...and none of the ones around us do ( i looked at them all) - maybe that is out of auckland???

maybe talk to the owner / manager and remind them that they need to wait 30 mins before calling you and only after putting child in the bath (ours does this) and retaking it...if still up then call - if not then it is likely to be a random temp thing they all do!

it can be too easy for them to call and if you agree then they go home...I often have said I cant come you will have to keep her til 2pm or so...and when I get there she is fine so i go them on that!!!! they learnt quick not to mess with me...my job is too busy to drop and run for everything...and I will when crucial!
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Have you asked whether they will let them stay if you've got a letter from your Doc? We had a wee girl in my class in Hong Kong (where they are REALLY strict about temps coz of SARS and swine flu) and she just always had a higher than "normal" body temp .... she got a letter from her doctor saying that and the Principal let her back in.

IMO it's a bit on the nose not to at least try and bring the temp down and retake her temp before insisting you take her home because as others have said, they can have a slightly high temp just from running around or having an extra layer of clothing on.

Otherwise, as you've said, your only option is to try line up a casual carer for the times you can't leave work. Do you have a friend/friend of your Mum's/MIL who could do this when you desperately need it? I'm the emergency contact for my friend's daughter's nursery here because I'm at home with C and she doesn't have family here.
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Our daycare has carseats too.

My son got really sick in his first 4 months of daycare (we ended up having to change dc's on advice from the pead) so I personally would say if she has a temp and needs pamol, then she should be at home. It really is in her best interests if she isn't well that she is home. I'm sure they take the temp cos she seems off colour. Would you like it if they let other kids stay with a temp and your daughter ended up getting sick off them and you had to have more time off? They really do have to have one rule and stick to it.

When my son wasn't feeling well I would rather they call so he isn't at daycare upset anyway - but thats just me. I don't think its their job to look after unwell kids (even if they're just miserable and got a temp from teething).
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Working & getting care for a young child can be hard & maybe a DC is not best for you. Home care based careers have nannies which work out to be cheaper than DC & then you don't have to worry about taking time off for a sick child.

Temps & teething can go hand in hand but teething can also mask other things. When using a DC you have to think of everyone, not just your child. Can they afford to have a staff member tired up with 1 unwell child.

If you can not get anyone to stay home with her then you need to. I know it is hard with money & taking time off work but when you have kids you have to put them first.
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Just to add...policies in DC are there to protect the staff, the center, children & your child.

They factor in their licence, regulations, what their insurance covers. They have to think of other things, like a child gets someone else medicine by accident, it get lost or they get accused of something. Centers are there to look after a group children so their policies can also reflect that.

I have worked in several centers so I know they can have different policies & you have the right to choose your DC on that also.

As for the car seats I guess it depends on whether the DC can afford to have them of if people donate them but they are the parents responsible not the center.


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Thanks for that everyone - yep Jazzy I know all of that and I do feel that if she's sick she needs to be home. I have taken the day off and am taking her to the docs just to be sure.

Our DC's a bit OTT with temps, they take it if they feel hot, not if they seem out of sorts. The first time they rang me the temp was 38.1 and they have to send them home at 38. They didn't try to bring the temp down other than taking clothes off. Even when Jack had a letter from the hospital paeds saying he would often get a temp of up to 38.5, they wouldn't let him stay (even though we knew the cause of it).

Think I'm going to have to put my foot down like BS said, I'm not stupid and won't send a sick child like some do, but they are there to look after my child (and get paid enough for it!) and they know how important it is for the parents to be able to work (for us, me turning down work comes straight out of our food bill).
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38.1 is not even worth a phone call home esp if she is acting "normal"!
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Our DC is the same, Thomas has been going there since he was 8 months old, so they know what he's like - he's a hot child. They will only give pamol once a day and will ring after 30 mins of giving the pamol to advise if he needs to go home or not. When they know he's teething they'll leave it a bit longer. I know once they got really crappy with me when i'd gone to Ashburton for the day and was rung at midday to pick him up and I couldnt - ashburton is 2hrs from kindy. They had to lump it - his temp came down another half an hour after ringing me. So he was alright.
They're like that with when they have the runs too. I made the mistake of letting Thomas have icecream the day before (stupid me) told kindy that he WILL get the runs - it's not a virus, yet they made me come pick him up anyway! I wish people would listen ><
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Originally posted by emz emz wrote:

Thanks for that everyone - yep Jazzy I know all of that and I do feel that if she's sick she needs to be home. I have taken the day off and am taking her to the docs just to be sure..


Good on you, hope she is better soon

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I think that the rules for temp etc are there to protect us and in all honesty if my kid is not feeling great then I would rather they were at home. Then again I am a stay at home mum so the logistics don't really get too complicated for me.   I do think this rule is meant to protect working mums too as it should stop other kids infecting yours IYGWIM. All good in theory as long as everyone abides by it and it is just not your kid being sent home.

On the other side of the debate my son would get car sick. Our school had terrible congestion and it would be stop and start for about 10 mins before school. At least once a month (maybe twice) my son would throw up on the way to school. Even though he regularly did it and it was car sick I wouldn't be allowed to have him at school just in case it was a virus. Frustrating but I understand that it is necessary.

Hope the teething passes quickly and life gets to be a bit more routine for you.
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