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    Posted: 15 April 2010 at 3:08am
So...
I am totally CLUELESS with all the jargon involved when buying a home...

we have been given an opportunity to buy the property we are currently living in..

Is there any good WWW or info you can recommend i read as a good starting point ??

I have looked into the first time home owner grant and thats about it so far..

Any advice or tips appreciated. Many thanks
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Hey. I see you are in Wellington too. We went to this free workshop.

They have workshops in 4 areas of Wellington, and you don't let the name of them confuse you, it is for people from all ethnic groups. The information they give you start right at the basics, however they know enough that if you have any further questions they can help you. They also follow up with you afterwards.

We ended up buying our home about a month after going to the workshop, we had no hassles and were a lot more confident in the whole process than what we were before. Definitely recommend as you have nothing to lose!
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Biggest advice I can give is - make sure you know your budget, and don't go over it. Banks are usually willing to lend you more than you think, and it can tempt you!! We could have borrowed $300k when we bought our house 2 years ago, but I had done a realistic budget and knew that would be too much in weekly payments, when you took into consideration rates, insurance and life! We ended up with just over $200k.

There are a few of us on here who are experienced in the property industry (either in law, or in real estate) so if you have any questions at all, just ask! Someone will be bound to help!

Are you looking at getting a Welcome Home Loan?
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sorted.org is great for figuring out the financial side & all of the banks (kiwibank and national are both good) have home buyer information.

It's not as confusing as you think once you get your head around it. Kate is right though, the main thing is knowing what you can afford and sticking to it. When you do your budget don't forget to include every little thing and factor in repairs & maintenance.
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I would also hold off as long as you can to get the biggest deposit possible. Over the last 3 years we have paid around $100,000 into our mortgage and only around $15,000 has come off the principal - the rest is interest!!! I now wish we had kept renting for a few more years and put the money we would have used for mortgage payments towards a bigger deposit.

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We went through a mortgage broker for finance, it was good to get unbiased advise on what was the best option for us. They were also able to recommend solicitors and a builder to do the inspection.


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HuntersMama is right... difinitely go for a bigger deposit if possible. We have quite a small loan and in just over a year and $12,000 worth of payments, we have paid off just over $3000 principal. Even things like a small increase in your payments or paying weekly instead of montly can make a significant difference to how much interest you pay overall.
Don't forget to factor in rates, insurance and set money aside for maintenance every week as well. There is no landlord to ring if the roof starts leaking or if the hot water cylinder explodes. So like minik8e says, make sure you budget all that in when you are looking at how much you can afford all up. Remember the bank wants you to owe more, so they get more in interest. They don't really care if you can't afford the payments, because they can always just sell the house anyway. That sounds very doom and gloom... sorry!!!
Also just a side note, if you are going thru a bank and not a mortgage broker, be wary of buying mortgage protection insurance. It's a good thing to have but we found the ones thru our bank were ridiculously expensive, and it was cheaper to do a combined policy thru our main insurance company (and the policy made a lot more sense as well).
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Wow, some of these make for depressing reading!! With principal repayments, a lot depends on how you structure your loan....we make fortnightly payments which mean we make an extra 2 payments a year, because the amount we pay fortnightly is half the monthly payment, so we end up paying an extra "month" of payments off the principal each year. We pay approx $20,500 in mortgage payments a year, which pays off between $3k and $4k off the principal (we have paid off around $7k in 2 years). Of course, it also depends on the starting amount of the mortgage!! We had no deposit at all and used a Welcome Home Loan.
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We don't have mortgage protection insurance, as DH is the main earner and the military isn't covered.

We are able to pay our rates fortnightly by direct debit, it comes out the same day as our mortgage - much easier only having to find $100 a ft night, instead of $700 each quarter. House insurance isn't that expensive, and you won't be able to take out a mortgage without it.


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We don't have mortgage protection insurance either, even though I work in the insurance/investment industry I deemed it not worthwhile when considering other insurance we have and savings.
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Firstly do a budget! Can you afford the weekly payments, mortgage protection insurance, house insurance, contents insurance, interest when it goes up and mostly likely will and rates.

I agree with the others the bigger deposit you have the better off you will be in the long run.

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It is depressing - we just got our end of year figures and I couldn't believe it! Almost made me want to sell up and go back to renting for a while.

We dont have payment insurance, but do have life insurance policies that would pay off the mortgage.

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Heres depressing, we rented a place for only 7 months, when we got our statement after we moved out , we had paid in total $25,000.
$25,000 for a house that wasn't ours .





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We had a financial advisor come and talk to DH and I about our mortgage. He is going to restruture the way we pay our loan and live daytoday. We will be going from 22years to pay off down to 9years? If anyones interested in how this works I will try to explain it
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We've managed to pay over 30K off our mortgage in 4 years - there is no way we could have saved that amount of money in that time. Our mortgage is now less than 180K on a house worth at least 350K, its nice to know we own it as much as the bank does.


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mumzrule - are you going to be doing the revolving credit kind of thing? Live off the credit card, while all your wages go onto the mortgage, then pay the credit card once a month, therefore reducing the amount of interest you pay, while earning bonus bits from the credit card??
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Do your research about who you go with for a mortgage. Dh had his mortgage through BNZ for his property he had prior to us getting together so automatically we just went with them for the house we brought together. I didn't know much about it so just said ok.

In hindsight it was stupid. BNZ never have the lowest interest rates and we should have shopped around. We are now looking at switching to kiwibank when our mortgage comes up for renewel at the end of next month. Its amazing how much better off we will be once we switch.
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thanks for all the advice...

off to see kiwibank today.
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Originally posted by minik8e minik8e wrote:

mumzrule - are you going to be doing the revolving credit kind of thing? Live off the credit card, while all your wages go onto the mortgage, then pay the credit card once a month, therefore reducing the amount of interest you pay, while earning bonus bits from the credit card??


Yep, we only just found out about it. Do you know much about it?? Wether it is as good as it sounds??
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How does that work. All our bills, food, everything gets paid on the credit card so we can get airpoints but we dont end up better off for it like that
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