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    Posted: 20 April 2010 at 9:55am
Hi Girls,
    I'm new here and hoping someone can please give me some advise.
My husband and I are having some issues (well have been since we got married 3 years ago) regarding his parents. We argue and sometimes end up screaming at each other.
I dont really know where to start or how to expain but I'll try...
Since we got married, a lot of things have happened and basically I dont feel like part of their family, feel resentment towards my mil and don't trust her and this is causing a lot of grief in our marriage. His family is the only thing we ever fight about, we are very happy when this topic doesn't come up. We have a 9month old son and everytime we go over to their place or they come over to ours, I seem to get very anxious, cant seem to relax and sometimes feel like im gonna have a panic attack (well I dont know how that feels but my heart beats really fast and i feel uncomfortable and i just feel like crying, sorry if im not making sense) . I know this will sound crazy (thats why i need your guys help :( ) I feel like she is going to take my baby away from me. I dont know how Im supposed to trust her with the most precious thing in my life when I dont trust her at all... and afterwards my husband and I end up arguing and screaming at eachother. Because of this, we have been seeing less of them lately, and about 3 weeks ago his parents called him at work and wanted to talk to ONLY him about some stuff . My DH told them that anything they need to say needs to be said infront of both of us not just him, They then told him that it had nothing to do with me but my DH made it very clear that he wont see them on his own regarding this issue they wanted to discuss,,, finally they decided to come over to our place . That night they came over and her mum was saying that she feels like she has lost her son since we got married, and now feels like she has lost her grandchild and asked me if I trust her with my son and brought up somethings I had said earlier which apparently upset her and embarrased her infront of her friends (which was me saying no to her trying to give my son a whole grape. For goodness sake I was looking out for my son) . I didnt tell her i dont trust her as I didn't want to upset my DH. And after having that talk, they have been coming around more often which is great for my DH, as i know he misses his family but my feelings towards her is still the same and i think it's worse now that she has made me feel like I've taken her son away from her and how she complained about me..
My DH thinks im being selfish and just thinking about myself and my feelings. But i try to tel lhim that I'm trying very hard to relax and just enjoy them when they are over but i just cant seem to,, this feeling I have just takes over and I just sit next to my DH and dont really participate with his family. Me acting this way is upsetting my DH. I just dont know what to do ..I feel like there is this grey cloud hovering around us all the time now. i find myself thinking about this ALL the time. I'm teary eyed right now writing about this :'( I feel very helpless, sad and over this situation but I know we cant keep avoiding it (like we have been doing for the last 3 years) ..
I dunno what Im wanting out of this, i guess I just want to know if there is anyone else out there in my shoes . anyone who's had similar problems with their inlaws and how they rectified the situation.
Im sorry about the novel , just needed to vent as this is driving me insane :(
Hope someone can help me. .
thanks
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Can I ask if there is a reason behind you not trusting your MIL?

I have had some similar issues with my MIL, but for now it's not at your stage...we have previously had words however.
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Aww chick that sounds like a tough situation to be in!

Maybe you could set some ground rules with them with regards to your son? And speak up if something happens that upsets you rather than stewing on it.

You could also have a big heart to heart with other family members and get their perspective... families are so complicated.

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Is there a reason behind your misstrust of your MIL.

This is coming from a different angle - My mother never really got on with her MIL, my brother and I are adopted and my MIL made it pretty clear that we were different, and always compared us to our cousins etc etc.  From what I've heard since they weren't particularly nice to her either and my mum was never one to put up with that kind of treatment.

Anyway's it got to the point where my mum had very little to do with her MIL, and we had very little to do with my Dad's parents.  We never felt we were missing out as my mum's family were lovely.

What was your MIL like before you got married?


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If there isn't a reason that you specifically distrust your MIL can I suggest it may be an idea to get an impartial third party invovled? Maybe you could go and see a counsellor with your DH.

One reason I suggest this is that my SIL had the same issue and it turned out it was related to postpartum depression. Not saying this is what you have but it would be an idea to see someone - you could eliminate that possibility and also get some suggestions on how you and DH can move forward.

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This is why I'm glad my in-laws live in a city a long way from us. My in-laws phone & never talk to me anymore, I don't care cause I don't put up with their bullsh*t. It's taken us years to make DH realise that he doesn't owe them money for raising & paying for things when he was younger. I've had to teach him "pay it forward" They always guilt trip him when we do occasionally visit but now both of us are strong enough to stand up to them & make our decisions final.

You need to make sure that you & DH are on the same page, he needs to understand why you mistrust her. Luckily for me my DH wouldn't leave our kids with MIL so we were already on the same page. Maybe it would be a good idea to go to counselling? Especially seeing they are around so much, or if you can talk at home you need to talk, maybe say hey lets talk about this, lets write down what we want to say first & read that before any discussion starts & say that you need to walk away before any yelling starts?

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Oh hun, this sounds awful.

Bobbies idea of a councellor is great.

 

My MIL and recently FIL have been incredibly difficult too. I don't have trust issues with them, but when it comes to my son they are awful towards to me about him, I won't go into it, but just so you know your not alone. I found having a good ol b!tch session with my SIL and Mum really helped. Was just good to get it all off my chest to someone who understood where I was coming from, any chance you can do that?

 

ETA - you really do need to have a sit down and discuss this with your DH, although tread carefully as no one likes to hear bad things said about their families. But he does need to hear your concerns and then you can work together to sort through this. (I'm yet to do this and unfortunately it is like a big elephant in the room with us at the moment, I just hate confrontation, but really should bite the bullet soon)



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I feel like i just read my own life except DP and i arnt married and we have only been together 18months. Everything else is spot on. PM me if you want to chat

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booze - have a stiff drink before you see your IL's and you wont feel so bad! as in every relationship it is a two way street, and if there is no reason for your distrust or anger then you are being unfair to your son and husband.

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Tracey I have to ask the same as the others. Is there a particular reason why you dont trust your MIL?

I really love my MIL but sometimes we dont see eye to eye to some real important things and it makes it very tricky. I dont have the history with her like Grant obviously has with his mother. And when I say something innocent she can take it as something totally different.

Which seems to works most of the time is if there is anything that can be percieve is conflict let the child whose parents are involve deal with it. So let him deal with them about it.

Take one example. If hubby was there with the grape situation then he needs to be the one speaking up about it. It is difficult however if he was not the one around.

If it was you. Later just have a quiet chat with her about it and tell her that you and hubby dont allow him to have these things yet but if she wants to give him snacks he is eating the following. ABC. Sometimes you have to give in a bit.

Like when my MIL comes and visit from SA she comes for a long time. She tends to buy a lot of junk for the kids. And I try to limit it but sometimes you just have to let them do it and tell yourself it is okay. Your kid is fine.

And if you dont drink then get rescue remedy. Seriously. Dose yourself. It calms me enough with my own mother. (which is a million times worse than my MIL.)


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Originally posted by Bobbie Bobbie wrote:

If there isn't a reason that you specifically distrust your MIL can I suggest it may be an idea to get an impartial third party invovled? Maybe you could go and see a counsellor with your DH.

One reason I suggest this is that my SIL had the same issue and it turned out it was related to postpartum depression. Not saying this is what you have but it would be an idea to see someone - you could eliminate that possibility and also get some suggestions on how you and DH can move forward.


I second this. Especially if you can't really explain why you are feeling the way your. Maternal Mental Health are fantastic. I think if you call Plunket they could direct you to the right place.
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I feel differently towards my MIL since we had a baby. DH would never leave Lily with her though so we don't have conflict about it. I think for me it's more of I don't like the way she treats her children and she has stupid ideas about things. Like she has 2 older step-grandchildren and although she married their Grandad when their Mum was about 10 (so been in their lives forever) and they call her Nana, she told everyone Lily was her first grandchild because she is 'blood'. I think that is disgusting and would feel very bad for the other 2 if they ever found out she said that. Also, she treats her own children (DH & his sister) horribly at times. She guilt trips them and tells them they are useless etc. DH just lets it go because she's always been like that. She doesn't sound very nice does she? But then aside from those things she really is a nice person, it's just that it's easier to remember these parts of her, even if they are only a fraction of her. Am I muddling you up? I think I might be confusing myself! But what I'm trying to say is that there are always different sides of people but at the end of the day it sounds like your MIL loves her son and grandchild and it is probably a horrible feeling for her that she doesn't have a close relationship with them right now. Like SMoody said, sometimes you just have to step back and let them do things or let them know nicely that you would prefer it done another way. It is very hard to 'release' your children to other people but it important that your child gets time with their grandparents. I think you should try and talk to your DH about it and how it makes you feel. Tell him what you told us and how you don't know why you feel like that but you just do and that you need him to help you to get over it. I hope you can work through it!

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I have to say your DH is a champ for refusing to speak to his parents without you there. Thats a big sign that hes putting you first and that should give you alot of confidence. It might make it easier to talk to him if you remember that while hes finding the situation difficult hes fully committed to supporting you and while he may not agree with you hes totally on your side!
Families can be such a pain and I fully sympathise - my MIL offered my DP $30,000 if he dumped me LOL talk about extreme measures!!!!!
I don't trust my MIL with my kids simply because of her attitude towards me. Shes actually brilliant with the boys but I wouldn't leave them with her because I wouldn't take the risk that her dislike of me would affect how she interacted with the boys (undermining me, etc). I wondered if that was kinda how you felt?!
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Following on what Bobbie said, do you also think you might benefit speaking with a counsellor on your own.   Its hard to comment too much with not being a witness etc but could a lot of it be coming from some of your own insecurities?? I know i got quite resentful towards my well meaning MIL when i had my first boy, but at the end of the day there wasnt anything malicious behind her actions and i had to learn that everyone is different and sometimes its not how they act but how we REACT that makes the difference in life etc.........

I have a list of rules that i had to write myself out to help me learn how to deal with other people cos i would always be on the defensive etc when people are just in their own way trying to help or be nice etc..........

As soon as i read your post i kinda got the same feeling as Bobbie with PND etc.........the family dont sound completely unreasonable, they sound like they would like to sort things out.........they dont want to lose their son, just imagine when your son is grown up and his wife didnt really like you so limited the time you get to see your son in the future......i look from different angles heaps now and try and see if from a different point of view, it sometimes helps put things into prospective

Big hugs hun, cos no matter what its obviously not an easy time for you
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I think this is a hugely common issue! I have several friends who feel similar to you do about their MIL, however maybe not quite to the same extent. I don't have kids yet but I know I will have issues with my MIL and my baby because I don't like her all that much (for various reasons) and like you this has caused some arguments between DH and me.

I just finished reading a novel by Jane Green called The Other Woman which is all about this topic - the MIL is "the other woman"....it had me nodding all the way through!
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Hi Girls
Thank you all for your replies..
A week after we got married, we were at DH's parents place, his dad was telling us about how he had seen a car he wanted to buy but didnt have enough money blah blah blah and as soon as I left the room, his mum quietly asked DH for a few thousands dollars (this is a week after we got married when we had just paid for our wedding all by ourselves, and were looking at buying a house and starting our family together, we didnt get any sort of financial support from them. We even had to give them money to give ingredients for some finger foods which she aggreed to make for the wedding) When DH told me this afterwards, i just couldnt believe it. I was soo angry at them for putting us in that situation knowing we arent able to give that kind of money especially right after our wedding AND she waited until i left the room to ask when we were talking about the same topic for the last hour. she is very sneaky and i dont like her attitude towards me and thats why i do not trust her . We agreed that we couldnt give them money but the next day when i got back home from work, DH told me that he had used our savings (deposit for the house) and given the amount they wanted..
Babe,,,yeah i was happy as well when he told me that he didnt want to discuss anything with his parents without me. This is the result of numeorous fights we've had since what happened after the wedding. He has finally realised that im his first priority and we need to support and trust each other if we want this marriage to work. He has told me that he knows why I dont feel like part of their family and understands where im coming from. He sees the way they are towards me. I didnt even hear from his family on my bday last year and the year before that, my DH had organised a surprise picnic for us, my and his parents and they called on the day to say they cant make it as his dad was sick. and then we get a call from them the next day saying they went to western springs for the day.. and there are many other reasons for the way i feel towards them,...
Babe, awww thats awful that they offered your DP $30K to leave you..thats disgusting.. how is your relationship with them now? How often do you see them?so I take it that you dont leave your kids wih them?

Oh I should have been more clear in my last post,, My DH and I talk about this stuff. he is aware of what i go through but the thing is we never seem to move on from this or get over this. We are happy and life is great until we see them.
I have wondered if I have PND but I only feel this way when we see them, rest of the time Im very happy and cheerful. Could I stiill have PND even though I dont feel this way all the time?
thank you all again for your replies, has helped me :)
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You can choose you DH but you can not choose your IL's. I think you need to put down some rules as your IL are over the top & it sounds like they are trying to cling on to their son & stupidly forgot if they acted like grown ups they would see they have a DIL & GS.

Your DH should run all money matters by you & if they still owe you money then get them to pay it back.

As a mother I would hate it if my boys when grown up could not talk to me alone or come visit, but then I don't plan to be a demanding interfering MIL, & that's maybe why I will never stop my DH from interacting with his parents even when I am not happy with them.

Oh & parents are not meant to ask their kids for money its the other way around
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Tracy I have a friend in a very similar situation to you, except her husband doesn't stick up for her.

She has dealt with it by laying down some firm ground rules about play time, bed time and food so her MIL knows what is appropriate and what isnt.

Also all visits are supervised.

Just remember personality clashes are a part of life, but your MIL has no right to make you feel like a bad mother. However, if she has a problem with you, then it is her problem, not yours. You dont have to be best friends with your inlaws, just civil.

Maybe find environments to interact which are not your house. It is a lot easier to be relaxed if there are other things going on. What about monthly trips out with them and the baby. I dont know where you are but the zoo or butterfly creek (in auckland) are they type of places I am thinking about.
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